Do no allow ranged Skip the Fun

[Rumblood]

I've brought it up before. Many times when the server is flooded with ranged, especially HA/HX types, there are a number of STF toons.

If someone wants to be ranged and add to the grief that melee is feeling, let them grind the levels for it on an alt or dedicated main. I certainly don't like the idea of limiting what % of the servers players can be a certain class, but making someone grind out a class until they are useful doesn't bother me.

STF should be for new players to try out builds, not for veterans to make instant troll classes and the new players should learn melee first anyhow.

[Gmnotutoo]

You must listen to this old and wise-man.

[Wolfsblood]

I am totally for this idea. It just will suck for the people who used stf for the right reasons, testing classes, not caring for the grind, ect.

[Rumblood]

I am totally for this idea. It just will suck for the people who used stf for the right reasons, testing classes, not caring for the grind, ect.

Yes, I do feel bad for people who use it as it is intended, but some kids just have to spoil the fun for everyone. At any rate, they can still grind it out and feel superior for having done so.

[Molly]

...made a very very similar suggestion 3-4 months ago and got minus-bombed for it. Guess I was ahead of my time... 

[Macropus]

Sorry but this is a terrible suggestion.
Never ever ever never ever ever should class balance in a game be regulated opressively, like "you're not allowed to play this class because there are already too much of such".
Instead, it should be balanced internally, so that less people want to play this class.
And yes, if there are too much players of certain class that means this class is OP in some way, simple as that. So nerf, don't restrict.

[Prpavi]

Remove STF altogether then, either allow all or nothing... and no, I don't support the notion

[Dezilagel]

Horrible idea.

Too much ranged means that there is a balance problem, pure and simple.

I really also really don't like the fact that this serves to screw over new players whilst catering to all the high level archers with serious special snowflake syndrome.

[Grumbs]

Maybe STF should be limited to like level 25, so you can try out a build but it will not be as good as someone who grinded for hours to get to 30

[Hirlok]

STF should be a mere "sandbox", - make them playable for 72 hours, then delete. And limit amount of STFs per account to 2 (added for clarification: for a certain timeframe, like 2 per month). Period.

And no, not just for ranged. "Buy not from jews archers!" - the racism and the melee-masterrace bs are slightly overdone already...

[Hirlok]

I know that it is not really possible, so a simple solution would be making STF's only able to join the Duel server. There you can test as long as you want, and everybody who does not want to fight your whatever-kind-of-build, does not need to.

I actually meant 2 per month/week/whateverlimitation, so you have to think twice before using one for trolling.

But I like the idea to limit them to duel server. Maybe simplest solution.

btw I have exactly one STF, and that is a shielder with a troll name, for EU propaganda services only. ;-)

[Hirlok]

But every melee players says: "oh boy, if I get killed by ranged more than 3 times, I will leave the server, play other games, make useful things IRL or leech on DTV server"

Note to self: write self help book for melee players to help them change fucked up mindset...

[Kafein]

This is a horrible suggestion that tries to hide the problem.

Btw Hirlok, would you not GTX if the game decided to kill you at random for no good reason ?

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

This is putting a band-aid on a broken leg, we've also just had a free respec, so it's not like most ranged these days are on STFs either.

[Hirlok]

Btw Hirlok, would you not GTX if the game decided to kill you at random for no good reason ?

it does, everytime a agi rondel shield my old friend or agi whoring polearmer or notoriously op 2h my old friend shows up. Or an xbow shoots me in the face. Or another archer. Or stupid onehitting throwing lances...

All good reasons to die, no good reason to whine, and no reason to rage quit.

Mindset: "good sports" "get better" "enjoy your own next kill" "laugh at the funny ragdoll your corpse just made"
not: "my autoblocking 'skillz' did not work against that ranged my old friend - RAAAAAAGE!!!!!"


P.S.: oh, one thing makes me GTX: horses, if there are too many of them. But that is related to my high ping, can't handle the fast fuckers. And even there I got better and enjoy every swing with a light spiked club while jumping at them, and every horse that ends up dead at my feet because of a well timed shot in the head.