All melee players should show understanding to each other.

[Hirlok]

Let me ask you Hirlok, how many classes have you played in this game and how many gens?

31 gens on main, plus alts in almost any class except cav, which I despise.
I suck in melee classes with my 200 ping, but still having fun with my agi shielder or my str polearmer, and no need to whine.


Oh, and actually I do play on EU quite a bit, usually with my xbow alt, mostly siege because NA siege is empty way too often, but also EU1, just to see if there is some reason for the whining. And nope, nothing out of the order there.

[Prpavi]

How many of those were on EU Battle servers recently? Because you clearly have no understending of how different the two servers are yet you somehow feel you have the authority to preach to EU melee players in a really condescending manner about the topic that frankly you have little to no knowledge about.

Please stop that, constructive criticism and debate is always welcome and sarcasm is fun, but there is a line where it becomes annoying and arrogant.

[Hirlok]

How many of those were on EU Battle servers recently? Because you clearly have no understending of how different the two servers are yet you somehow feel you have the authority to preach to EU melee players in a really condescending manner about the topic that frankly you have little to no knowledge about.

Please stop that, constructive criticism and debate is always welcome and sarcasm is fun, but there is a line where it becomes annoying and arrogant.

....so is constant fact-free whining that - if taken serious by the devs - would affect ALL c-rpg players, not just the EU1 fetish group.

But hey - this morning (my time) - about 55 people on EU1, incl. one well known pain-in-the-ass HA, archers getting murdered, melee dicking it out at end of round as usual, one HA delaying because team archers dead. Scoreboard dominated by the usual classes. Nothing new with that, all good.

[Fartface]

OR all melee players should defend there own ranged so that there ranged can take out the enemy ranged.

[Thomek]

OR all melee players should defend there own ranged so that there ranged can take out the enemy ranged.

No, melee players defending ranged are traitor scum even worse than ranged!

[Prpavi]

....so is constant fact-free whining that - if taken serious by the devs - would affect ALL c-rpg players, not just the EU1 fetish group.

But hey - this morning (my time) - about 55 people on EU1, incl. one well known pain-in-the-ass HA, archers getting murdered, melee dicking it out at end of round as usual, one HA delaying because team archers dead. Scoreboard dominated by the usual classes. Nothing new with that, all good.

sarcasm is fun, but there is a line where it becomes annoying and arrogant.

[Fartface]

True dat.

[Hirlok]

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nope, just facts and observations. I have yet to see one scoreboard or log that shows anything but the fact that there are still some ranged people in this game and that occasionally they get a kill as well (usually by killing other ranged).

[Araxiel]

OR all melee players should defend there own ranged so that there ranged can take out the enemy ranged.

That won't happen. Ranged will still shoot melee players.

[Fartface]

Thought so.

[Tindel]

there are more people playing DTV now than battle in EU,

[Leshma]

Two and a half solutions to that problem. First, lower DTV rewards and piss off regular DTV players. Which will leave us with even less active players.

Or buff battle/siege XP/gold rewards.

Or obliterate archery so people once again start enjoying battle mod.

[tizzango]

I'm really excited to start playing again so I can see what all this ranged fuss is about. As you all probably know, i'm the best 2h this community has ever seen, and I still enjoyed myself on EU1.

Albeit I have specced to a shielder after watching the Spartacus series

[Trikipum]

Oh and maybe implement bounce, so that non-bodkin arrows can't pierce mail and no projectile can pierce plate.

Just that most non bodkin arrows actually pierce chainmail, barbed arrows are better in RL for it. What we call ingame "tatar" will bounce with chain armor. They are actually considered another kind of bodkin arrow by others. Barbed arrows pierce mail as good as bodkins, and their wounds are way nastier. And bodkin arrows are pretty bad vs plate armor. This is talking about relatetively short distances 15-20 meters. More than that is just a game of angles, forces, material qualities, craftmanship and luck.  Actually, best defense against arrows is made with steel plates or clothes (or a mix of both).

Chain mail isnt good against any kind of proyectile at 20 meter. Im up for realistic armors but i think it would require a very well made fatigue/stamina system. Oh and of course. Plate armor gives more mobility and less movement restriction than chain mail. This stuff is so full of myths. BTW the bouncing arrow is there for very high armor values but it doesnt happen enough times. There are some serious researches around internet about the subject if you care to search for a long while.

[Strudog]

31 gens on main, plus alts in almost any class except cav, which I despise.
I suck in melee classes with my 200 ping, but still having fun with my agi shielder or my str polearmer, and no need to whine.


Oh, and actually I do play on EU quite a bit, usually with my xbow alt, mostly siege because NA siege is empty way too often, but also EU1, just to see if there is some reason for the whining. And nope, nothing out of the order there.

When you play ranged you dont feel the difference, when i played xbow i felt that there wasnt too many ranged, because i shot them all, but when i play shielder, it seems like the only thing that is hitting your shield is arrows.

You know when archers have too many arrows that they will waste 3-5 arrows on your shield