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Castle, not city. You confused me saying city, Im talking of the castle he retreated from accidently not the gear bugged city which you were also bugged attacking so made a mutual agreement on.
First, if LCO doesn't want to give the town and or troops gear back then that is their decision, and I don't think anyone would blame them either way. At 6 am with 0 tkov on, we prob woulda got capped anyway. History proves that.
However, people like creslin or whoever pappy is, that weren't in the know for our first war, really shouldn't comment on it, or maybe should post more, since we all love drama threads.
My point is, despite popular belief, tkov was not the only faction in VE during that war, and we never owned caraf castle. Now, in that case if we were the victor of LCO's blunder than we would have made a similar call, but that was 9fingers win and decision since mb did the attacks. That being said, that wave was the 4-5th on said castle, and the only thing at stake was population (2000 tickets) we decided to keep the castle but let everyone leave/give back capped troops and gear. Our reasoning, and if i wasnt typing from phone could show, was VE had already lost upwards of 5k from bugged attacks and we were tired of the same venue.
So, that sets the stage for shariz. keep in mind 2 things. 1) these were tkov battles 2) catapults and siege towers DID NOT WORK. LCO couldnt spawn with gear, they gave us the town. Even if they could have spawned with their gear, the amount we capped wouldnt have been enough for even 1k tickets and they would got capped regardless. We gave back the town/gear and troops weeks later after one of the Nord devs told us the siege bug was fixed. Of course the bug wasnt actually fixed for another month at least.
Yes, we did keep one castle and give back one town, but the circumstances were hardly the same. My arguement for giving back our town of Veluca would be so we could have a few more battles in the town. We don't give a shit about this buggy gimp strat, but getting to fight in your namesake is pretty cool, and better than cramped castles.