Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Gnjus]

[serr]

I know I could get it on google but    what's the current government looking like in term of far-left to far-right power balance? From what I remember, there is some shady far-right guys at big posts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yatsenyuk_Government

Yes, there are three members of Svoboda party, but mostly it consist of Fatherland party

[Elmuri]

And with Nations. If anyone remembers, if respected business ancestors if you proud of the deeds... Nation will not disappear. It's an identity on a national basis.

That resembles what Ernest Renan was thinking in the 19th century, but I'm not sure what does that have to do with the text you quoted?

[BIA_ivani4]

That resembles what Ernest Renan was thinking in the 19th century, but I'm not sure what does that have to do with the text you quoted?

Yes? So I am not alone. Thank you. 

[Elmuri]

Well, I would also recommend to read what other nationalist, internationalist and trans-nationalist thinkers have thought after that.

For example David Mitrany or Michael Billig and his book Banal Nationalism, which I intend to read too when I get time and will.

[BIA_ivani4]

Serr, I am interested in Avakov. It's in a team? For any ideas?

[serr]

Sorry?

Задай вопрос по-русски. Я понял что тебя интересует Аваков, а вот вторую часть не очень.

[Butan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yatsenyuk_Government

Yes, there are three members of Svoboda party, but mostly it consist of Fatherland party

OK thanks,


You sure Poroshenko would not change any position, even though when the government formed it was without the people voice, only MP? I dont know how it works in Ukraine, but in France the president always form a government according to the election result, they rarely keep previous ministers and they almost always give the ministers only to guys in their political party (except if the election was very short and they want to form a coalition), but I guess for extraordinary event we need extraordinary measures!

Still, I dont see the composition not changing at all if there is results which says (for example) that Batkivshchyna need to go away.

[Kafein]

So the winner may well be a pro-US/EU, supported by pro-US/EU; even if he is moderate it will be enough to get tense relationship with Russia, because he will most probably open his arms to everything Russia doesnt want: the crimean crisis could even be the basis of "protecting ourselves against exterior influence". The talk about digging themselves up against the east, could mean Ukraine will become the newest/closest most important entrenching country to counter Russian influence, after the baltic states.

Or is he moderate even in foreign policy matters? We will know as soon as he form his government and appoint the important ministers of foreign affairs and police/army.

To you, what would be "moderate even in foreign policy matters" about a country that invaded and forcibly annexed part of your territory ?

I think we all agree here that those wanting to fight for Crimea on the Ukrainian side are idiots, but it's not like a moderate government would seek to continue relations with Russia at the level of what they were under Yanukovich.

[serr]

In Ukraine president proposes candidate for prime-minister and parliament accept or don't accept him.
Then prime-minister and president are forming government.

After Poroshenko's win I expect Udar(Klitchko's party) to get some(probably quite a lot) posts in government.
Yatsenyuk will most likely remain prime-minister, he is average politician, but good economist, which makes him good prime-minister in current situation.

Poroshenko claim that his goal is to unite democratic powers and Fatherland is considered to be part of them, so some them for sure will stay in government.

[BIA_ivani4]

Poroshenko claim that his goal is to unite democratic powers and Fatherland is considered to be part of them...

«Batkovschina» - understandable. And who were the «Democratic forces»?

[serr]

Democratic forces - I mean democratic parties in Ukraine who supported maidan: Fatherland, Udar. Not sure if he includes Svoboda here, which is obviously not democratic, but still supported maidan.

[BIA_ivani4]

Democratic forces - I mean democratic parties in Ukraine who supported maidan: Fatherland, Udar. Not sure if he includes Svoboda here, which is obviously not democratic, but still supported maidan.

That is, the party which overthrew the government of Yanukovych. People who participated in the revolution. Revolutionaries. This is so?

[BIA_ivani4]

 Well. Another question: «Tituschki» - who is this?

[BIA_ivani4]

The dialogue failed. Very sorry... Interlocutor thought long, tired, and ran away.