Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Corwin]

On youporn? Under UN amateur.

[DaveUKR]

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I don't see how these posts contradict to each other. A lot of engineers work on factories actually. Ukrainian bydlo mostly works on illegal markets: merchants, taxi drivers, thugs, security (like if they protected anything).

Instead of making a friend out of Ukraine, Russia made it an enemy for Crimea. I see no way Ukraine joins any international community that Russia proposes in future. Russia's local success in Crimea is a global fail. When Ukraine was in-between 2 choices: EU or Russia, now it's only once choice.

[Corwin]

Dave, you are absolutely right. There are two possible reasons:

1) Total Russian fail, terrible strategic planning
2) Plans for full takeover of Ukraine

[Butan]

Wasnt contradictions between each other, more like if high education means being gentle, Xant is the dumbest person on earth.

Then your post, pure gold, Maidan was done by unemployed savages then? They had time to demonstrate for 3 months.

Come on, re-read sometimes 

[DaveUKR]

Wasnt contradictions between each other, more like if high education means being gentle, Xant is the dumbest person on earth.

Then your post, pure gold, Maidan was done by unemployed savages then? They had time to demonstrate for 3 months.

Come on, re-read sometimes 

Those who stayed there for 3 months are definitely unemployed people. I know a lot of people who came there for a couple of days (even local millionaires) just to show their point of view. But those who were there during all the time either had no job or got paid for that (or both). There were some special Yanukovich haters, who stayed there for a long time (like those whose business got caught by Yanukovich's team) but anyway they count as unemployed.

[Segd]

any examples of states with more than 80% of people with higher education? 

About education:

According to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development’s latest report, as of 2011, an estimated 53.5% of Russian adults held a tertiary degree, which is the equivalent of a college degree in the United States. It was the highest proportion among the developed countries considered by the OECD.

Read more: The Most Educated Countries in the World - 24/7 Wall St. http://247wallst.com/special-report/2013/10/15/the-most-educated-countries-in-the-world-2/#ixzz2wVniauK3
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Yes, Russia is the most educated country in the western world.
Deal with it! 
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Russia and Japan are exceptions to this trend. In Russia, per student spending on education was just 4.9% of GDP, or barely more than $5,000 per student. Both figures were among the lowest among all countries reviewed. In the United States, spending per pupil was more than three times as much.

[Xant]

Wasnt contradictions between each other, more like if high education means being gentle

Does anyone else doubt what I said? If so, I can explain why I'm right; Butan isn't smart enough to understand even if I explained it real slow-like. But then again, I doubt anyone with any intelligence would doubt that good education equals kinder societies and less savage people, it's obvious.

[Butan]

I wasnt denying your high intelligence, quite the contrary, but you're like the worst person to state the obvious* fact that high education means general kindness, seeing your overall post history. I hope you at least smiled a bit internally when you wrote it else you lack some high education self-mockery 

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*Less savagery doesnt equal less violence, but thats an off-topic issue I will not digress on!

On topic: does any besieged Ukrainian soldiers were assaulted in the last 48 hours? Or are the Russian happy to just try to undermine their resolution by continuing the siege?

[BASNAK]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26653295

Worth a watch.

[serr]

Yeah, that's horrible. I hope those retards will be severely punished, would be big mistake to let them escape punishment.

[DaveUKR]

Yeah, that's horrible. I hope those retards will be severely punished, would be big mistake to let them escape punishment.

I agree, nothing can justify such actions of deputies. Even if the guy did wrong things it doesn't let them beat him or force to sign things.

[serr]

I agree, nothing can justify such actions of deputies. Even if the guy did wrong things it doesn't let them beat him or force to sign things.

Quite ironically that he didn't. Well, probably he did before, but they beated him because his channel was broadcasting "Hromadske TV" - pro-maidan channel, that is supposedly sponsored by USA, which in turn was showing how Putin was signing bill of annexing Crimea. 

[The_Bloody_Nine]

So, the vast majority of the german (internet) population seems to think more or less that Putins actions are understandable and only pro-western politicians and media wants to tell us there was an annexation and Russia is acting aggressive. While some criticism on Western politics is certainly ok, this extreme trivialisation of the russian actions and its history is alarming.

Is it similar in other countries or is it only because germans love anti-american conspiracy theories so much?

[Xant]

I wasnt denying your high intelligence, quite the contrary, but you're like the worst person to state the obvious* fact that high education means general kindness, seeing your overall post history. I hope you at least smiled a bit internally when you wrote it else you lack some high education self-mockery 

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*Less savagery doesnt equal less violence, but thats an off-topic issue I will not digress on!

On topic: does any besieged Ukrainian soldiers were assaulted in the last 48 hours? Or are the Russian happy to just try to undermine their retsolution by continuing the siege?

The problem here is that you are misinterpreting my post. I did not say that everyone who is educated is gentle.

Furthermore the irony would not work anyway because my formal education is far from impressive.

[Molly]

So, the vast majority of the german (internet) population seems to think more or less that Putins actions are understandable and only pro-western politicians and media wants to tell us there was an annexation and Russia is acting aggressive. While some criticism on Western politics is certainly ok, this extreme trivialisation of the russian actions and its history is alarming.

Is it similar in other countries or is it only because germans love anti-american conspiracy theories so much?

Yea, I noticed the same thing. And sometimes they give such stupid and idiotic reasons for being all "Putin did the right thing" that they make me feel even more ashamed than before

I've even read stuff like "Snipers on Maidan where US troops", neglecting the simple pictures everyone could see on YouTube with Police forces openly sniping at the protesters. Maybe there where others but that doesn't change the facts we saw and know.
Same for those "self defence forces" - they are so obviously Russian troops - besides the actual Russian troops with insignia, how on Earth can anyone try to reason about that simple fact that they invaded that place?
Well, I noticed now that I made a mistake of semantics. I wrote "invaded" which might be a choice of word that can be argued.

Let's try to make a list of facts that we can be certain of. I start:

- Ukrainian Police forces fired live rounds at the protesters in Kiev
- Russian military troops crossed the sovereign borders of the Ukraine
- the current Ukrainian parliament members are the same regularly voted representatives they were before the protests

Those 3 things out of the top of my head are simple facts I believe I can be sure of.