Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Kuujis]

Yea, it actually makes kinda sense.
Before Maidan, the Ukraine paving the way into the EU, maybe even NATO at some point, must have annoyed Russia.
I start to think that some assure from the EU and the Ukraine - even written down in a contract - assuring Russia that they may enter the EU at some point but will never enter NATO, might have put Putin a lot more to rest and avoid the current conflict completely.
Afaik, no one of the EU actually talked to Russia before trying to talk the Ukraine into the EU-orientation.

No, it does not make sense. If you always followed sense of your stronger, meaner neighbour - he would have parties when he wants, you would clean his flat afterwards.

Also - newsflash - russia (or maybe just putler) does not give a flying du(i)ck about what it signed. E.g. the treaty they signed with Ukraine about respecting its borders...?

[Daunt_Flockula]

Haha, funny video. A guy on pro-Russian demonstration who can't even speak Russian 

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No biggie. We now have a minister of internal affairs who can't even speak Turkish.

[Vovka]

Crimea is a part of Russia now. All hail Putin! 

[Molly]

No, it does not make sense. If you always followed sense of your stronger, meaner neighbour - he would have parties when he wants, you would clean his flat afterwards.

Also - newsflash - russia (or maybe just putler) does not give a flying du(i)ck about what it signed. E.g. the treaty they signed with Ukraine about respecting its borders...?

You kinda missed my point:
Bringing Russia into the process of Ukraine going EU might probably have avoided all the shit going on right now.
It's not like the sensitivity of Russia is an unknown mystery.

Just saying that the EU fucked up too and big time.

[Aksei]

Dear Russia, your doing it wrong.

How you do better:
1. Take some criminals nobody will miss
2. Kill them and put them into Crimea
3. Tell the world, massakers going on
4. Move in


On a serious note, nothing wrong that Crimea now belongs to russia again. The way wasnt the best. Everything looks like behavement of 30s.

But the whole Ukraine-"revolution" was a curious thing and i think the murricans have something to do with. Also the they dont want that EU and Russia have good relations.
Just think the way we gone the last years.
EU - Russia -> good relations / EU -> China -> good relations / Russia - China -> good relations
USA - EU  -> not that good  / USA - Russia  -> not that good / USA - China  -> not that good

My opinion is that the US now try to get EU back on their side with Ukraine blood

[Leshma]

Yea, it actually makes kinda sense.
Before Maidan, the Ukraine paving the way into the EU, maybe even NATO at some point, must have annoyed Russia.
I start to think that some assure from the EU and the Ukraine - even written down in a contract - assuring Russia that they may enter the EU at some point but will never enter NATO, might have put Putin a lot more to rest and avoid the current conflict completely.
Afaik, no one of the EU actually talked to Russia before trying to talk the Ukraine into the EU-orientation.

It doesn't work that way. Remember this?

Replace Cuba with Ukraine and switch USA for Russia and it finally makes some sense.

[Zaharist]

Looks like we've got another Kosovo/Monteblack in spanish.

As I said in another thread there are some big differences:

1. Noone killed in Crimea (lot's of native serbians killed in Kosovo)
2. Crimeans are not living in reservation "in a state of war" (in some parts of Kosovo serbians don't have even toilet paper and learning books)
3. Crimea's prime minister is not an international terrorist (Adem Jashari albanian national hero is)
4. Russians did have army in Crimea. It's our military bases and navy, Ukranian side was being paid for. (Americans were involved in some skirmishes in Kosovo)
5. Crimeans DO have a right to "pick a side", while in Kosovo there was henocide of native folks.
6. Crimea is tourist center for most of russians and ukranians, albanian Kosovo is now drug dealing, slave dealing, prostitute and terrorist center of EU.
7. EU and US are against of Crimea being added to Russia, but ok with Kosovo's massacre.

The funny thing is that Kosovo is the heart of Europe and now americans have their military bases there.
Americans are extremly good at destabilizing EU, Africa, East.
One thing I don't understand is why EU is still being US puppet.

[Xant]

You wouldn't understand, being a brainwashed Russian state-puppet.

[Zaharist]

Ok, please, tell me what's wrong with my post? Point out please where is brainwashing?
Are you sure you are not brainwashed?

Also, you are totally wrong, cause
1. I don't watch TV and don't read pro-Kremlin journals and papers
2. I don't support putin's government
3. I am aware of different points of view on Ukranian theme (russian, ukranian, eu and us) and I don't support any of them, cause it's just stupid.

Try a bit harder please, if you are capable of smth more then just trying to insult

[AntiBlitz]

Dear Russia, your doing it wrong.

How you do better:
1. Take some criminals nobody will miss
2. Kill them and put them into Crimea
3. Tell the world, massakers going on
4. Move in


On a serious note, nothing wrong that Crimea now belongs to russia again. The way wasnt the best. Everything looks like behavement of 30s.

But the whole Ukraine-"revolution" was a curious thing and i think the murricans have something to do with. Also the they dont want that EU and Russia have good relations.
Just think the way we gone the last years.
EU - Russia -> good relations / EU -> China -> good relations / Russia - China -> good relations
USA - EU  -> not that good  / USA - Russia  -> not that good / USA - China  -> not that good

My opinion is that the US now try to get EU back on their side with Ukraine blood

what?  another conspiracy theorist has reared his head.(maybe just russian idk)

since when has russia or china ever had good relations with the west?  China and Russia have a known history of opposing EU and the U.S in united nations meetings for who knows what reason(probably to just be assholes, because they can be), but that assuredly isnt to create better relations, not to mention China who you suppose has great relations with Russia has just abstained from the voting, which in lament terms means, fuck you russia you're on your own.

http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1449547/russia-isolated-china-abstains-un-security-council-vote-crimea

[Yarl]

Ok, please, tell me what's wrong with my post?

You're Russian!
fckng communist.
 

[Zaharist]

born to be evil 


 

[Zaharist]

China and Russia have a known history of opposing EU and the U.S in united nations meetings for who knows what reason(probably to just be assholes, because they can be), but that assuredly isnt to create better relations, not to mention China who you suppose has great relations with Russia has just abstained from the voting, which in lament terms means, fuck you russia you're on your own.

Hey, clever boy

I'm glad to see how proud are you for being the part of World's Justice! Enlightening the World!

Seems like you know much about "good relations" in geopolitics... btw what the fuck is this?..

I would be glad to hear your opinion about american affairs in
Yougoslavia 41-49'
China 46-49'
Germany 45'
Japan 45'
France 47'
Greece 47-49'
Philippines 48-53'
Peru - 48'
Costa Rica - 48'
Nicaragua - 48'
Alabania - 49-53'
Puerto Rico - 50'
Albania - 49-53'
China - 51'
Gayana - 53-64'
Iran - 53'
Grenlandia - 53'
Guatemala - 54'
China - 56'
Livan - 58'
.............
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..
  fuck it

[Kafein]

Again, how is that relevant to the current situation in Ukraine ?

[DaveUKR]

Again, how is that relevant to the current situation in Ukraine ?

Who cares? America is bad and that's why good Russia can annex Ukrainian lands