Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Tovi]

Seriously.

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Call this "globalisation" or "US empire", but they call themselves "new world order", whatever it means in their mind. Israel is just a part of this empire, as France, Japan etc.
That's why a referendum is cool for Kosovo or Mayotte, but not in Crimea. You can split Yugoslavia or USSR, but not pro-US Ukraine. It's a "one way" world order.

[DaveUKR]

Call this "globalisation" or "US empire", but they call themselves "new world order", whatever it means in their mind. Israel is just a part of this empire, as France, Japan etc.
That's why a referendum is cool for Kosovo or Mayotte, but not in Crimea. You can split Yugoslavia or USSR, but not pro-US Ukraine. It's a "one way" world order.

It's not splitting up, it's annexation.  Completely different things. You can call it pro-US, pro-anything, I'm ready to live like those countries because they're not even close to something like current Ukraine or Russia.

[Molly]

Call this "globalisation" or "US empire", but they call themselves "new world order", whatever it means in their mind. Israel is just a part of this empire, as France, Japan etc.
That's why a referendum is cool for Kosovo or Mayotte, but not in Crimea. You can split Yugoslavia or USSR, but not pro-US Ukraine. It's a "one way" world order.

You can spew your conspiracy bullshit as much as you want...

It won't change the fact that the lesser evil is still better.

[Vovka]

There are two choices in referendum:
1. Crimea joins Russia
2. Crimea becomes independent

Since independent Crimea can join Russia afterwards it is basically the same, there is no choice.

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[serr]

That's exactly what I mean.
That's only status, not really part of Ukraine and it could be easily cancelled without another referendum. Well, it already was like week ago.

[Segd]

Lol, at least I thought were would be an option to keep the shit as it was a month ago - "part of Ukraine without super autonomy"
Without this option this referendum would not be legitimate even with eu observers & ukrainian military on the streets.

For pro-Ukrainian Crimean this referendum looks like:
"
-We will rape you every monday
-We will rape you every sunday
No option to not get raped, sorry.
"

P.S. Nope, you cannot leave both options unmarked to vote for old style Crimea. It would be considered as invalid(googletranslate last sentence) .

[Tovi]

You can spew your conspiracy bullshit as much as you want...

It won't change the fact that the lesser evil is still better.

Who talked about conspiracy ? Nothing is secret. Have you ever seen a master ploting against his slaves ?? They just lie, repress and divide (Western like other countries)
 Read books, stop watch tv and open your retarded mind.
You can still think that EU or USA are better than Russia, but don't talk about "human rights" or good guys against axis of evil.

[Christo]

Read books, stop watch tv and open your retarded mind.
You can still think that EU or USA are better than Russia, but don't talk about "human rights" or good guys against axis of evil.

 

[Segd]

You can still think that EU or USA are better than Russia, but don't talk about "human rights" or good guys against axis of evil.

You should visit us sometimes, tovarisch! 
You remind me some dudes who think that North Korea is better than "new world order".

[Tovi]

I've never said that, I'm happy to live in a western democracy. But since the end of the soviet bloc they don't need democracy anymore. And they want a world government. This is their project, and this is why they fear an eurasiatic bloc (Russia/China/Iran) and try to contain these countries or any one who dare to resist (Khadaffi, Chavez etc.).
Even Obama talks about US hegemony over the world.
It's not just a theory, that's their foreign policy. And it's not new.
You can think it's a good think for the world. But just remember they don't need democracy anymore.

[Falka]

Tovi, being critical toward western countries is fine, but what you say here is retarded.

[Segd]

82% voted.
93% of them voted for joining Russia.

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What do you guys think of http://tvrain.ru/ ? Saw my parents watching this, was surprised to see a russian TV channel being so unbiased towards the events in Ukraine/Crimea.

[Segd]

It was banned from Russian cable tv few months ago(still available online). Considered as last opposition channel.

[[ptx]]

Well, it's available as cable/satellite TV here in the Baltics.