Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Corwin]

A good comment on that video for the morons who don't seem to understand what fascism means:

This definition lacks many things. First, you need to have an ideology that is "official ideology", taught in schools, at work and being the only one allowed in the country. Second, you need to have citizens living in fear of secret services, being affraid to speak their mind, or bad things would happen to them. Complete control over media also falls under this one. Then, you need to have common enemy, one hated by majority of population, such as Jews, communists, black people, Arabs, immigrants, take your pick. These people would usually be blamed for everything that's wrong with the country. For example, you don't have this shit in Russia, but it exists, in part, in France. Then, you would need to have completley non-democratic and useless elections, where you would have shootings of political rivals, beating up of masses at political rallies.

Anyway, I disagree that Russia today is facsist country. I believe that it would fall under "authoritarian" countries in sociological classification, but definately not fascist or totalitarian (fascism being one of the forms of totalitarion regimes).

[Xant]

The personal, as everyone's so fucking fond of saying, is political. So if some idiot politician, some power player, tries to execute policies that harm you or those you care about, take it personally. Get angry. The Machinery of Justice will not serve you here – it is slow and cold, and it is theirs, hardware and soft-. Only the little people suffer at the hands of Justice; the creatures of power slide out from under with a wink and a grin. If you want justice, you will have to claw it from them. Make it personal. Do as much damage as you can. Get your message across. That way you stand a far better chance of being taken seriously next time. Of being considered dangerous. And make no mistake about this: being taken seriously, being considered dangerous, marks the difference – the only difference in their eyes – between players and little people. Players they will make deals with. Little people they liquidate. And time and again they cream your liquidation, your displacement, your torture and brutal execution with the ultimate insult that it's just business, it's politics, it's the way of the world, it's a tough life, and that it's nothing personal. Well, fuck them. Make it personal.


Words to live by, from an individual to a country. 

[LordBerenger]

I don't want a 2nd Cold War. I want a 3rd World War.

LETS DO THIS SHIT!

[Christo]

I don't want a 2nd Cold War. I want a 3rd World War.

LETS DO THIS SHIT!

Only if it happens at your doorstep, enjoy it then

[Ikarus]

I don't want a 2nd Cold War. I want a 3rd World War.
LETS DO THIS SHIT!

we got video games for that, it´s like war, but you can turn it on and off and nobody actually gets killed

modern times, huzzah

anyways, I still hope for some kind of miracle in Ukraine, it´s really getting bad now :/

[enigmatic_stranger]

Calling other people names and trying to degrade other countries is fascism aswell...

Did you just called yourself a chocolate chip cookie?

[Falka]

I just find it funny that we (UK and USA) go around the world invading countries on trumped up pretexts like WMDs and protecting ourselves then we come out with stuff like this
When that's exactly what we have been doing

But not in Europe And noone cares about middle east, africa and the rest of the world, as long as you don't fuck shit up in europe you're fine in our eyes

You're a fucking retard Ivani. The closest thing to the third reich around is your fascist shit country.

It's hard not to agree with Oberyn

[Dark_Blade]

You're a fucking retard Ivani. The closest thing to the third reich around is your fascist shit country.

the way how democractive conversation is going... and the main thing is to respect other people, their rights and preferences... like gays, like tolerance to other races and nations... like nationalists in ukraine...
most of you are just contradicting yourself... dont you see?

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well actually that message probably was trolling

Dave, did I call russians as ukrainian brothers? you read much more than I actually wrote.  I just wrote that I dont want to fight for country I hate.

[Molly]

Did you just called yourself a chocolate chip cookie?

Don't mind Panos. His mind is so blown up by now, he contradicts himself in every 2nd post. Just lean back and enjoy the show

[Xant]

the way how democractive conversation is going... and the main thing is to respect other people, their rights and preferences... like gays, like tolerance to other races and nations... like nationalists in ukraine...
most of you are just contradicting yourself... dont you see?

Yes, Oberyn. You're just as bad as the evil men in Ukraine because you post on forums like that.

[Panos_]

Did you just called yourself a chocolate chip cookie?

Who said I wrote that as a bad thing 

[DaveUKR]

Ukraine peaceful patient wise guys  and Russia cold bloodthirsty bastards     are you serious dave?  pls I dont want to sound harsh but your comments are growing even more brainwashed than those you accuse of brainwashing 


Ukraine is on standstill not because of a morale high ground, but because they are waiting for external help because they know they would get crushed like Georgia if they are alone in the war against Russia.

You're right only particularly, Ukraine doesn't want to engage into a fight without support because it will lead to huge loses. Although to win a war against Ukraine Russia should actually use its all military forces which is impossible. The thing is that there will be no war and Russia only tries to escalate the situation. Trust me, you don't sound not brainwashed either as you only more or less support/justify the Russian side in all your posts in this thread. The only difference is that you live miles away and I live here in the centre of actions.

Anyway, how would you call a country that wants to annex the part of its neighbour and intrude it with military forces? How is it any different than Hitlеr's?

Dave, did I call russians as ukrainian brothers? you read much more than I actually wrote.  I just wrote that I dont want to fight for country I hate.

So you've basically just confessed that you hate Ukraine. You know, you can hate government, you can hate politics but hating your own country? How dare you asking for your opinion to get attention in the country which you hate then? That actually proves it even more that you're typical "bydlo" - low-educated guy who hates his own country and I wouldn't be even surprised if you can't connect 2 words in Ukrainian. Or am I wrong and just made a reckless announcement about you?

[Panos_]

Seeing the Russian threat getting bigger day by day, the French decided to take action.

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[Nessaj]

Russia gives Ukrainian forces in Crimea ultimatum to surrender - Interfax

Russia's Black Sea Fleet has told Ukrainian forces in Crimea to surrender by 5 a.m. (0300 GMT) on Tuesday or face a military assault, Interfax news agency quoted a source in the Ukrainian Defence Ministry as saying.

The ultimatum, Interfax said, was issued by Alexander Vitko, the fleet's commander.

The ministry did not immediately confirm the report and there was no immediate comment by the Black Sea Fleet, which has a base in Crimea, where Russian forces are in control.

"If they do not surrender before 5 a.m. tomorrow, a real assault will be started against units and divisions of the armed forces across Crimea," the agency quoted the ministry source as saying.

[Kuujis]

the way how democractive conversation is going... and the main thing is to respect other people, their rights and preferences... like gays, like tolerance to other races and nations... like nationalists in ukraine...
most of you are just contradicting yourself... dont you see?

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well actually that message probably was trolling

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You are QUITE a rebel in rUSSIA to presume, that there is someone willing to SPEAK to and someone deserving RESPECT in government of rUSSIA right now. I would say fuck you and fuck your pathetic wish to be treated with respect, when your own country does not deserve this.

West-brain-washed at least have the courage to be self-critical, while propaganda machine in rUSSIA does not allow for such fallacies, because you just CAN'T be wrong, aye?

So fuck your "democratic" talking. Oh... sorry, its actually already fucked, I must have missed that somehow...

Get out of Ukraine, get out of Georgia, allow for free referendum in Chechnya, THEN come talking and presuming, that you actually have some place at the table where people with mutual respect speak.

UNFORTUNATELY, there is a serious lack of people in western government, who understand the simple truth, that rUSSIA can't be spoken to in civilized fashion. After all - if I did not know differently - I would say that "a word and a gun is much more powerful than only a word" phrase came right out of pUTLER's handbook of phrases to live by.