Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Overdriven]

Well the UN is only really as useful as the countries involved. And most nations will be to shit scared of risking a war with Russia to do anything more than wag their finger at them.

Sure Russia may damage it's diplomatic relations with other nations but like Putin gives a fuck 

[Prpavi]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=287_1393605865

[Falka]

It is yet unknown who and where these soldiers. However, on the streets of Crimean cities ceased unrest. Police work. Previously, in the clashes, 3 people were killed (heart attack, gas poisoning, stabbed). The work of the citizens and government soldiers "unmarked", not make obstacles. They do not Express their political views. About the victims there is no evidence and messages. However, these people, their work is clearly a good stabilizing factor for the situation in the Crimea. May be they from Russia. Maybe it's former military from Simferopol. And maybe this is a new, unknown until political force in Ukraine? In any case, if these soldiers were not, it would be worse than now. Good job, guys.

Definitely unknown. My guess is they're aliens. But yeah, keep invading ukraine. With citizens like ivani there's no wonder that putin can stay in power.

[Teeth]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=287_1393605865

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e65_1393623458

Fixed that for you

I don't have any faith in the UN taking any action as an organization, but I think economic sanctions by the EU are maybe a possibility. It is really an interesting geopolitical situation as Ukraine has been torn inbetween Russia and the EU for a while now. Russia fearing a loss of influence in Ukraine has taken the game to a level at which the EU can't play, namely the military level, so it is really a turning point where the EU can either show that it is capable of hard power or demonstrate to the world that they are just a wimpy trade organization after all. Now of course I am not saying the EU is going to deploy them weirdass EU Battlegroups they have been going on about, but they have the capability to really put some pressure on Russia through economic means. Sure one can say that the EU relies on Russian gas, but perhaps even more so Russia relies on export money to the EU. It's gonna cost them both so it comes down to who has the most resolve, which might mean that Putin is gonna bluff his way through there while the members of the EU dabble and derp.

If the EU doesn't do anything it is gonna come down to NATO and I am afraid nobody is care enough about Ukraine or sovereignty to actually take any steps that are going to impress Putin, military action is just so hugely expensive and the US is probably a little worn out on that front. Also curious to see if China is gonna speak out against this invasion, as they are always opposed to any NATO actions that violate sovereignty, not that it is going to help anything in the shitty Security Council. Apart from a sliver of hope on the EU I am afraid the world map is gonna require some recolouring soon.

[Overdriven]

[Corwin]

Are you kidding me? NATO? Wtf? What is NATO going to do? Go into World War 3 because of Crimea? C'mon. Be realistic. World War 3 wouldn't be profitable for anyone, no one would make money of it, and therefore it will not happen. Russian would have lost it, but if only 10% of Russian missiles would hit USA, only cockroaches would survive.

My best guess is that they will shout a lot, 'strongly condemn' and similar bullshit, and that's gonna be it. The only thing I don't know is how ready will Ukranians be to defend Crimea. One thing is certain, if they engage in full scale war with Russkies and lose, beside Crimea they will lose eastern part of the country. And I don't see how they can win, best thing they can hope for is a stalemate. After which there would be some bullshit negotiations, where everyone will agree that they should respect right of Crimeans to self-determination. After which it would also come to the same end - Crimea would separate from Ukraine.

However, if I was Ukrainian, I would also be ready to defend my country.

[Prpavi]

However, if I was Ukrainian, I would also be ready to defend my country.

I would be ready to flee the country

[Corwin]

You are looking at it from wrong angle. It could be your best chance to get pension (braniteljsku).

[Panos_]

I would be ready to flee the country

Shamefur dispray Prp`s.

One should be ready to die for his country, there isnt a more glorious death than this one.

[Corwin]

Well, if someone attacks Japan, I am sure Prpavi will defend it until death.

[Kafein]

One should be ready to die for his country, there isnt a more glorious death than this one.

Why?

And why is glory important?

Wouldn't you prefer dying after finding a cure for cancer or something?

[Panos_]

Why?

Because I respect those who gave their lives so I could be free now having a conversation with you guys..

From Leonidas and Hotgates, to the Greek Liberation in 1821 and from that, to WW2..

My ancestors gave their lives for something they believed it was worth fighting AND dying for.

[Tears of Destiny]

EDIT Oh nevermind...

[Dezilagel]

One should be ready to die for his country, there isnt a more glorious death than this one.

Wait, what?

From the discussion in my sig:

i lol in your general direction

[Prpavi]

Shamefur dispray Prp`s.

One should be ready to die for his country, there isnt a more glorious death than this one.

I don't do countries and nations, you should know by now