Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Jacko]

US couldn't give a flying fuck what Russia does in Europe. US can't intervene without causing a much larger problem. This is a 'conflict' between Russia and EU, and US will stay out of it as long as it can.

[Christo]

i dont get why everyone is so afraid of russia

50 years of occupation did its work

[Xant]

There is nothing legitimate with the Russian military 'intervention'. It's a parliament sanctioned invasion of Ukraine, utterly illegal under any international law.

Talking about international laws and "illegal invasions" is more than a little corny. The only law there is when it comes to war is the law of the strongest.

[Butan]

I dont think you really get the full situation Osiris. And tbh its cool. You really get how this works if you are living next to Russia. This is how they annex lands for themselves and how they have done this before.    If they get away with it whats stopping em from taking more pieces from its other neibhours claiming "russian citizens are in danger".  Would you be cool with it? The fact that some dickbags from another country just randomly take some chunks out of yours in a nonviolent manner isnt exactly calming now is it. And we dont even know if the people of Crimea actually want to be part of Russia. Just because there are men with guns everywhere claiming that they definately do and raising russian flags doesnt make it so.

Implying Europe/USA/Israel/Africa never used bullshit casus belli?

I prefer the russian casus belli of getting all his "people" under the same flag, than USA perma global casus belli against terrorist/undemocratic nations 

[Jacko]

Talking about international laws and "illegal invasions" is more than a little corny. The only law there is when it comes to war is the law of the strongest.

Xant, stop being silly.

[Lt_Anders]

My Uncle who's part of the High ranking military(was) and is a part of the US/RUS national security council thing told me over brunch that US has cut any official contact with RUS and his is the only thing they are doing.(Cold war era stuff right here!)

[Kafein]

50 years of occupation did its work

You mean close to half the world's supply of nuclear warheads ?

[Teeth]

Really just seems like a poorly disguised invasion to make a land grab. Is Ukraine in anyway responding to the Russian troops, apart from 'pls stop'?

[Kafein]

Really just seems like a poorly disguised invasion to make a land grab. Is Ukraine in anyway responding to the Russian troops, apart from 'pls stop'?

gootin pls

[DaveUKR]

Really just seems like a poorly disguised invasion to make a land grab. Is Ukraine in anyway responding to the Russian troops, apart from 'pls stop'?

Today in the evening the head of the Parliament announced the full embattlement (I don't know how to translate properly: a process to get troops being full ready for military actions) of Ukrainian army.

[Christo]

You mean close to half the world's supply of nuclear warheads ?

..And that, yeah

[Teeth]

Today in the evening the head of the Parliament announced the full embattlement (I don't know how to translate properly: a process to get troops being full ready for military actions) of Ukrainian army.

Good, dunno what the hell Russia is thinking but they are crossing some serious lines here. Think they overflexed their muscles this time and I don't think this will fall well in the UN, EU and with NATO at all. Of course it remains to be seen whether any international action will be undertaken with the coercive power contained in Russia's energy exports and their veto in the UN, but it is diplomatic suicide nonetheless and it seems a rather foolish course.

[BASNAK]

If the Russians are going to try to become a super power again, this is what's going to happen:

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[BIA_ivani4]

Thus occurred the seizure of the building of the Supreme Council of the Crimea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EuNsKuAcErE
Protection (police) were disarmed and removed from the building. Then the Weapons returned. People "unmarked" took control of the order in several buildings and airports in Crimea. At each site there is about 50 soldiers. They make no representations. They do not communicate with people. They don't even talk on the phone.
It is yet unknown who and where these soldiers. However, on the streets of Crimean cities ceased unrest. Police work. Previously, in the clashes, 3 people were killed (heart attack, gas poisoning, stabbed). The work of the citizens and government soldiers "unmarked", not make obstacles. They do not Express their political views. About the victims there is no evidence and messages. However, these people, their work is clearly a good stabilizing factor for the situation in the Crimea. May be they from Russia. Maybe it's former military from Simferopol. And maybe this is a new, unknown until political force in Ukraine? In any case, if these soldiers were not, it would be worse than now. Good job, guys.

[Osiris]

Good, dunno what the hell Russia is thinking but they are crossing some serious lines here. Think they overflexed their muscles this time and I don't think this will fall well in the UN, EU and with NATO at all. Of course it remains to be seen whether any international action will be undertaken with the coercive power contained in Russia's energy exports and their veto in the UN, but it is diplomatic suicide nonetheless and it seems a rather foolish course.

maybe but the UN is good for nothing. They couldnt stop the USA doing whatever it wished in the middle east they cant stop Russia either. Nato perhaps will move troops into west Ukraine but im not sure they will engage in the crimea