Meanwhile in Ukraine

[enigmatic_stranger]

why the fuck would they even have any monuments of that old dick left? maybe they have stalin monuments as well?

relevant:
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[Leesin]

No, you're lying about your military service. And you were gangraped! And hazed. And then you were... uh..... lying. In that order. This is amazing, making retarded accusations! What fun!

I'm sure Dave has lied about far worst things too.

[Berserkadin]

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I've just spotted DaveUKR in a picture putting up barricades for the rioters.

[Kafein]

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I've just spotted DaveUKR in a picture putting up barricades for the rioters.

So relevant it hurts

Well. The thing is that the west is obligated to interfere if Ukraine has military problems as it was one of the main reasons Ukraine got itself denuclearised.

Obligated by what ?

(I don't want to sound angry, I'm just asking the question)

[Xant]

Ukraine is not in NATO, therefore there is no obligation even in theory and certainly there won't be any help in practice.

[BIA_ivani4]

That would end the crisis in Ukraine, need a strong authority. But after the elections will again Maidan. Probably the best is to create a new Federal state. Several autonomies in the «Federation of Ukraine». Autonomous republics (States, enclaves, or earth) will have its own Constitution, its own government, its own laws, its police, and even his army. Then it will be possible to end the unrest. Each part of the people establish order in their country, according to its own rules. The main governing body of the Federal Ukraine will Federation Council. Decisions will be taken at the level of heads of autonomies. By means of meetings and agreements. This new structure will emerge from the crisis quickly and without blood, without war. People will live again without worries. Everyone will get what it wants. Federation of Ukraine will accept the EU as a full partner (Ukraine's economy is stronger than many EU countries. Only iniquities until much.). For Ukrainians will be possible to travel to Europe without visas. Under the current structure of Ukraine's EU accession will be very long…
This may seem absurd, but the other way, I do not see. Ukraine needs the money. A lot of money. Or will a new real Holodomor. But who will give a lot of money the country in which the mess? The EU? But Germany finances today many parasites. The people of Russia did not support such a decision Putin (too much dirt and kakashek threw Ukrainians in our direction). There are, of course, another option. This is the USA. The US loves when other mess.

[Xant]

The urge to believe in our own worldview is our most powerful intellectual imperative, the mind's equivalent of feeding, fighting, and fornicating. People will eagerly twist facts into wholly unrecognizable shapes to fit them into existing suppositions. They'll ignore the obvious, select the irrelevant, and spin it all into a tapestry of self-deception, solely to justify an idea, no matter how impoverished or self-destructive. Food for thought, Dave, food for thought.

[KaMiKaZe_JoE]

America must liberate them.

We have to free everybody god dammit.

[DaveUKR]

Obligated by what ?

(I don't want to sound angry, I'm just asking the question)

Obligated by the "Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances" since 1994. Just to make it short: After the dissolution of USSR Ukraine had the 3rd nuclear potential in the world (after Russia and USA, having more nuclear weapons than UK, China and France altogether). The world was concerned with such power that's why this document was signed: Ukraine had to denuclearise themselves in trade of security guarantees (in case of wars, military conflicts in the territory of Ukraine etc.). Initially 3 countries signed it (USA, UK and Russia, I'll post a short summarize from Wiki):

Russia, the UK and the USA undertake to respect Ukraine's borders in accordance with the principles of the 1975 CSCE Final Act, to abstain from the use or threat of force against Ukraine, to support Ukraine where an attempt is made to place pressure on it by economic coercion, and to bring any incident of aggression by a nuclear power before the UN Security Council.

Later China and France gave same guarantees.

[Corwin]

Obligated by the "Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances" since 1994. Just to make it short: After the dissolution of USSR Ukraine had the 3rd nuclear potential in the world (after Russia and USA, having more nuclear weapons than UK, China and France altogether). The world was concerned with such power that's why this document was signed: Ukraine had to denuclearise themselves in trade of security guarantees (in case of wars, military conflicts in the territory of Ukraine etc.). Initially 3 countries signed it (USA, UK and Russia, I'll post a short summarize from Wiki): 
Later China and France gave same guarantees.

Yes, but this does not provide guarantees in case of "civil war", where one side would be heavily armed and supported by Russkies.

Also, if the Russia, at any point, decides to militarily intervene, how are they going to stop it? It would not be the first, nor the last time in history that the West backs out of such a deal. Especially since fullfiling of this deal may mean end of mankind. It would only be a technical issue to find an excuse for not doing anything.

The point is, no matter what kind of guarantees they have given, they DON'T apply to Russia, because war with Russia is not an option.

Just look at this sentence again and tell me this was respected in case of Ukraine:

"to support Ukraine where an attempt is made to place pressure on it by economic coercion"

[BIA_ivani4]

Poland, Romania and the Baltic countries did not give any obligations. As obligations of Belarus and Kazakhstan.
There are also China and Moldova. Under the banners of any country enter the army is a purely technical matter. "Guarantee"... How much we promise to women... Just what would she undressed and moved her legs. 

[Strudog]

Yes, but this does not provide guarantees in case of "civil war", where one side would be heavily armed and supported by Russkies.

Also, if the Russia, at any point, decides to militarily intervene, how are they going to stop it? It would not be the first, nor the last time in history that the West backs out of such a deal. Especially since fullfiling of this deal may mean end of mankind. It would only be a technical issue to find an excuse for not doing anything.

The point is, no matter what kind of guarantees they have given, they DON'T apply to Russia, because war with Russia is not an option.

Just look at this sentence again and tell me this was respected in case of Ukraine:

"to support Ukraine where an attempt is made to place pressure on it by economic coercion"

You give too much credit to Russia, just look back at the Cold War, neither the West or East want Mutually assured destruction. The world is too secure these days for any war of such magnitude to ever happen again, Russia would very much find itself alone if it went to war over Ukraine. Just look to recent examples, Syria, Russia would have been in their like a shot if their was no backlash from the international community, Russia is very much concerned about its international image at the moment.

[Mwahahaha]

That would end the crisis in Ukraine, need a strong authority. But after the elections will again Maidan. Probably the best is to create a new Federal state. Several autonomies in the «Federation of Ukraine». Autonomous republics (States, enclaves, or earth) will have its own Constitution, its own government, its own laws, its police, and even his army. Then it will be possible to end the unrest. Each part of the people establish order in their country, according to its own rules. The main governing body of the Federal Ukraine will Federation Council. Decisions will be taken at the level of heads of autonomies. By means of meetings and agreements. This new structure will emerge from the crisis quickly and without blood, without war. People will live again without worries. Everyone will get what it wants. Federation of Ukraine will accept the EU as a full partner (Ukraine's economy is stronger than many EU countries. Only iniquities until much.). For Ukrainians will be possible to travel to Europe without visas. Under the current structure of Ukraine's EU accession will be very long…
This may seem absurd, but the other way, I do not see. Ukraine needs the money. A lot of money. Or will a new real Holodomor. But who will give a lot of money the country in which the mess? The EU? But Germany finances today many parasites. The people of Russia did not support such a decision Putin (too much dirt and kakashek threw Ukrainians in our direction). There are, of course, another option. This is the USA. The US loves when other mess.

Bad idea, federation of Ukraine will weaken the state only. And it will be benefiacial for Russia or US etc...In eastern regions of Ukraine live around 35-40% of ethnic russians  ( They were brought here, during repressions when ukrainians mostly from eastern regions were sent to Siberia or killed ) many of them have russian passports already, they can easily sell houses and go to russia where they can buy better house and find better job. Russia give passports there cuz wants to have measures of influence on Ukraine and in which case bring their army here to "defend" their people. In this case our country needs to support people ( by giving them money or something ) who wants to go to russia.
About holodomor, there will not be holodomor at all, Ukraine has the richest land in Europe. Holodomor 32-33 was made intentionally.

[Mwahahaha]

Poland, Romania and the Baltic countries did not give any obligations. As obligations of Belarus and Kazakhstan.

To bad that Belarus in the hands of Lukashenko. People of Ukraine and Belarus which established Kievan Rus state now separated   

[DaveUKR]

Yes, but this does not provide guarantees in case of "civil war", where one side would be heavily armed and supported by Russkies.

Also, if the Russia, at any point, decides to militarily intervene, how are they going to stop it? It would not be the first, nor the last time in history that the West backs out of such a deal. Especially since fullfiling of this deal may mean end of mankind. It would only be a technical issue to find an excuse for not doing anything.

The point is, no matter what kind of guarantees they have given, they DON'T apply to Russia, because war with Russia is not an option.

Just look at this sentence again and tell me this was respected in case of Ukraine:

"to support Ukraine where an attempt is made to place pressure on it by economic coercion"

None of the countries you would like to mention had such memorandum. Also believe it or not but the West helped Ukraine in such situations multiple times, if not that Russia would have much bigger influence on Ukraine. It's obvious that EU and USA only look for their own interests in such help but still it's helpful for Ukraine. Putin is trying his best now to exaggerate the situation to make a civil war in Crimea. The fight for the rest of Ukraine is lost, even former President team is looking forward to become friends with anti-President forces because they understand that they will lose everything if they don't become friends now. It's a little bit different with Crimea because they only have one way to maintain power - become a part of Russia. In the other way they will get into a prison for separatism.

Also, you're very overestimating power of Russian military. You never faced it yourself, words "modern", "professional" and "reliable" are the last words I would use to describe it. Ukrainian military is not any better though.