Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Kafein]

So, results from the Dutch investigation indicate it's an AA missile that exploded near the plane and destroyed the cabin. Russia suddenly changed its version.

[Grytviken]

So, results from the Dutch investigation indicate it's an AA missile that exploded near the plane and destroyed the cabin. Russia suddenly changed its version.

Didn't they already claim responsibility on twitter and then quickly pull it down after they found out it was a passenger airline?

[Paul]

Unfortunately this is how the US justice system encourages criminals to speak up. Basically if they tell the truth and give up information their sentence is lessened, and for high priority cases of great importance the plea bargains are often more generous for the sake of finding out all the facts and they might even walk away free as part of the deal if they give up all the information they are looking for.

Wut? They let the Unit 731 people go in exchange for being the sole receiver of their research material. The Sowjets had an (ideologically salvageable)interest  in revealing the crimes because there were lots of Russian victims but it was falsely denied as lies and propaganda by the West. Keeping all the goodies for oneself and denying to others that they ever existed is hardly comparable with key witness deals. In fact it's the polar opposite because they tried to hide the truth.

[Grytviken]

Wut? They let the Unit 731 people go in exchange for being the sole receiver of their research material. The Sowjets had an (ideologically salvageable)interest  in revealing the crimes because there were lots of Russian victims but it was falsely denied as lies and propaganda by the West. Keeping all the goodies for oneself and denying to others that they ever existed is hardly comparable with key witness deals. In fact it's the polar opposite because they tried to hide the truth.

Because letting the Soviets get classified information about biological warfare was in our interests at the time...

[Paul]

Yes, that was the usual argumentation. That Viet village was full of communists too and the children were already  tainted by Marxism beyond repair. Better to burn it all down. All those actions by the US had a justification that might be good to you, at that time normally anti-communists stuff. They were still crimes for me.

[Tibe]

Didn't they already claim responsibility on twitter and then quickly pull it down after they found out it was a passenger airline?

Yeah. Wasnt that a very strong lead. The separatists were all gloating in social networks how they shot a Ukrainian army plane down blabla. When the Ukrainians didnt know wtf they were talking about and it turned out a passenger plane was downed nearby, they instantly took everything down.

Its also amazing what massive fucking liars pro-russian politically active old ladies are. "They saw a ukrainian plane chase the passenger plane in the sky." Commmooon...

[Grytviken]

Yes, that was the usual argumentation. That Viet village was full of communists too and the children were already  tainted by Marxism beyond repair. Better to burn it all down. All those actions by the US had a justification that might be good to you, at that time normally anti-communists stuff. They were still crimes for me.

 Yes Paul of course they were war crimes, just because they were American doesn't exempt them, even though it was not in the interest of the US and it was purposely hidden it still got out. And you're right the mistrust and deterioration between the villagers and the US soldiers was no excuse for those actions, but when people see their friends killed they sometimes try to take matters into their own hands, it's sick I know, this was the first major modern war of this nature that was taking place in a very inhospitable area, with many psychological  horrors involved.

[Tibe]

People please, this is the "russian crimes thread". Do NOT ruin this for me. This is the only place I get to be relevant and hatespeech. Common...Giev the ex-Soviet country guy some love.

If you wish to write a complaint about usa I suggest you visit our forums lovely threads about schoolshootings or guns.

[Angantyr]

 

[Grytviken]

People please, this is the "russian crimes thread". Do NOT ruin this for me. This is the only place I get to be relevant and hatespeech. Common...Giev the ex-Soviet country guy some love.

If you wish to write a complaint about usa I suggest you visit our forums lovely threads about schoolshootings or guns.

But it's all a CIA conspiracy to steal their potatos, I swear I saw it on RTV.

haha

[Vovka]

omg why dat man is still alive did we spend all polonium already or what?

[Grytviken]

So drunk

[Vovka]

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go fucking away, this is my prey

[Grytviken]

omg why dat man is still alive did we spend all polonium already or what?

 Anti-Air missiles don't blow up planes, see? *pulls out carbon reinforced flak-underplated cockpit demonstration* Also fuck physics and velocity, damn cia propaganda

[Vovka]

Anti-Air missiles don't blow up planes, see? *pulls out carbon reinforced flak-underplated cockpit demonstration* Also fuck physics and velocity, damn cia propaganda

they studied the path of penetration of fragments rather than the degree of destruction of the fuselage