Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Thomek]

I'd also prefer Russia trading and cooperating closer with EU. Imo the best for Russia would be if they took some of EU's ideas of how to run a country, how to organize society, but kept control of their resources. Just like I'm pro EU, but I think it's better for Norway to stay outside with our Fish and Oil. Russia and Norway are primarily exporting raw materials and opening the market to the EU would probably lead to unfavorable exploitation.

Now, I realize no politician would win an election in Russia that says: "It's all our own fault! we need to change our ways!" But my hope is that there will be someone leading Russia that is smart enough to realize the bitter truth, and do something about the rotten system.

[DonNicko]

I'm economist with highest degree. I was best student in university. And I can say nobody knows how economy works, except people who manage it with wars, huge amount of money and so on. Current economy is the biggest lie. And this is true.

[Tibe]

I agree Nicko. Economy is very shifting and volatile. But everything that guy claims, is just wrong. Really read his words, process his ideas and you would see it too. Just because economy is hard to understand doesnt mean its logicless and that there is no wrong quesses. There are.

[DonNicko]

Just one global catastrophe, and economy will change. Now Russia spend a lot of money to make selfproduction better. If there wouldn't no war. Russia will grow. We have different mentality. And EU doesn't suit us at all. That what EU and USA can't understand

[Thomek]

Well, economy works when people can trade and do stuff better than others. If I'm good at making the wooden part of spears, and you are good at making the tips, we trade and we both profit.

Really sucks for the one that can produce only 3 tips of spears in the time it takes you to make 5. Eventually, he will fall behind and perhaps find something he's better at. Also, it is hardcore for countries to be exposed to higher competition before they are ready. Probably the main reason RF suffered so much in the 90s and still are very protective. Shock doctrine was a massive disaster, although I believe the intention was good.

Anyway, sooner or later, things have to change.. You can't keep doing things same old way forever, the people will get sick of the stagnation.

atm In Russia, you can probably answer this better than me, but if you are best at producing spearheads, someone will come and take the business from you, with the help of a corrupt judge, and run it to shits. So there's really little incentive to get good at making them in the first place.. 

Look at how expensive Sochi was

This makes whole society rotten from the top down!! When everything is affected by incompetence, the guy transporting the spearheads, the shop that sells them, the incompetence of the users..you can multiply those ineficciencies and what took 10 man hours to do in the west takes suddenly 100 in Russia.

[Xant]

ye, show me proof stupid shit head
all i provided u here are from ur own countries, i didn't provide u with any russian news or resources.

You show me proof you stupid poo poo head.
I wasn't aware I was from several countries. Learn something new every day when dealing with Russian FAS cases.

very strong argument 

Seriously, you Russians make it too easy -- that's exactly my point. Unless you were TRYING to burn Nebun, in which case well done.

I'm economist with highest degree. I was best student in university. And I can say nobody knows how economy works, except people who manage it with wars, huge amount of money and so on. Current economy is the biggest lie. And this is true.

And yet your English is at the level of a thirteen year old. Either you're lying or Russian educational system is even worse than I thought.

[Nebun]

Well, economy works when people can trade and do stuff better than others. If I'm good at making the wooden part of spears, and you are good at making the tips, we trade and we both profit.

Really sucks for the one that can produce only 3 tips of spears in the time it takes you to make 5. Eventually, he will fall behind and perhaps find something he's better at. Also, it is hardcore for countries to be exposed to higher competition before they are ready. Probably the main reason RF suffered so much in the 90s and still are very protective. Shock doctrine was a massive disaster, although I believe the intention was good.

Anyway, sooner or later, things have to change.. You can't keep doing things same old way forever, the people will get sick of the stagnation.

atm In Russia, you can probably answer this better than me, but if you are best at producing spearheads, someone will come and take the business from you, with the help of a corrupt judge, and run it to shits. So there's really little incentive to get good at making them in the first place.. 

Look at how expensive Sochi was

This makes whole society rotten from the top down!! When everything is affected by incompetence, the guy transporting the spearheads, the shop that sells them, the incompetence of the users..you can multiply those ineficciencies and what took 10 man hours to do in the west takes suddenly 100 in Russia.

first of all u can't change population and mentality in seconds, it takes a lot of time and u don't understand our mentality, and if any western president become president of russia he would either suicide or be killed ) and he wouldn't change anything

About Soci, obviously cost will be much hire then profit, but u look further - they improved city and build new infrastructure partly compensated by income + olympic fund
Now this city is fine and Russia didn't have to pay for all of this by herself. + increased popularity among its population, if more russian people will go to soci in summer its better for economy. I don't expect much turism from other countries though

[DonNicko]

And yet your English is at the level of a thirteen year old. Either you're lying or Russian educational system is even worse than I thought.

I learnt english by myself. Also I know turkish and tatar languages. It is enough for me if you can understand me. English in our schools really suck, but other lessons are good. Compared it with my american friends, they are too far

[Nebun]

Nebun has 0 idea on how economy works. I could very logically pinpoint that everything he just said, is false. But that would be a gigantic wall of text and he'd still deny it and continue to be dumb.

Remarakable, how politicalviews can completely rob a person of common sense.

I could, I would - so far u didn't say anything real with no confirmation from anywhere.

I could explain about other civilizations in universe, but i just won't do it, eh u not worth this wall of text

[Xant]

I learnt english by myself. Also I know turkish and tatar languages. It is enough for me if you can understand me. English in our schools really suck, but other lessons are good. Compared it with my american friends, they are too far

If your schools can't even teach something as simple as English (the only skill you can demonstrate coincidentally) then I doubt their ability to teach anything else.

[DonNicko]

If your schools can't even teach something as simple as English (the only skill you can demonstrate coincidentally) then I doubt their ability to teach anything else.

lol Xant if you are not trolling then I feel sorry for you

[Xant]

lol Xant if you are not trolling then I feel sorry for you

I feel twice, no, three times as sorry for you.

[Nebun]

I feel twice, no, three times as sorry for you.

u must be a stupid kid

[DonNicko]

I feel twice, no, three times as sorry for you.

OK 

[Xant]

u must be a stupid kid

NO u )))