Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Xant]

Maybe if you post 100 times within 2 minutes for a week, Nebun, people will start believing your Putin fiction. Not.

[Nebun]

Nebun, ok about growth. I think your argument is extremely simplistic.

In the west, we are pretty much done developing our countries. It gets harder and harder to get better. Our highways and railways are mostly built. Out cities are mostly developed. People have a living standard and possibilities that are mostly limited by their own efforts, though of course, it can be better. Our politicians are arguing about relatively minute matters on how to do things better, but they are in fact mostly in agreement.

Of course, RF, China, and most of developing world has enormous potential. Even Poland, where I live. But as most of the kinks in society are getting ironed out, it gets harder and harder to make it better. There you go, explanation for why we see more growth in RF than in the rest of europe atm.

I partly agree about it being more difficult to push economy when its hight. But growth doesn't have it top or limit. USA growth was constant for huge amount of time. When can u decide that u at the maximum? I think its continues process that never ends and through history changing all the time.
And when country doesn't have any more potential to grow, usually its starting to fall.

[Oberyn]

You're delusional if you think China has more to gain from siding with Russia than the US on the geopolitical arena. Maybe you've forgotten about the huge underpopulated chunk of "Manchuria" Russia appropriated from the japanese, just north of a massively overpopulated country that outnumbers Russia's population 10 to 1. Or the increasing number of resource extraction colonies set up by chinese and north koreans all over eastern Siberia. They already outnumber the few russian descendents of exiles, adventurers, prospectors and colonists. Jeez, what happens to a particular territory when a neighboring country has historical irredentist claims and can pretend aggressive expansion is some sort of noble protection of it's ethnic brethren? Let's ask Ukraine, i'm sorry, "Novorussia". Just like Vladivostok = Hǎishēnwǎi.

[Xant]

my logic proven by the information i provided leads to the fact that Russia will eventually get way better then ur country.
how to explain this better to u, maybe mathematics will help, plus visual aid

lets say you here
--------------------------------------------------------YOU--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->
moving at the speed of 20km/h
and russia is here
-----Russia--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->
moving at 40km/h
at some point it will pass by u and will end up in front
is that simple enough for u?

I didn't notice this post at first.

Prime example of how Nebun's understanding of economics is at the level of a child. Just hilarious.

[Nebun]

Maybe if you post 100 times within 2 minutes for a week, Nebun, people will start believing your Putin fiction. Not.

more stupid meaningless shit from u YEY

[Nebun]

I didn't notice this post at first.

Prime example of how Nebun's understanding of economics is at the level of a child. Just hilarious.

i've tried to explain it on ur and tovis level xant

[Xant]

i've tried to explain it on ur and tovis level xant

And your explanation just proves you have no idea what you're talking about in the least.

[Nebun]

You're delusional if you think China has more to gain from siding with Russia than the US on the geopolitical arena. Maybe you've forgotten about the huge underpopulated chunk of "Manchuria" Russia appropriated from the japanese, just north of a massively overpopulated country that outnumbers Russia's population 10 to 1. Or the increasing number of resource extraction colonies set up by chinese and north koreans all over eastern Siberia. They already outnumber the few russian descendents of exiles, adventurers, prospectors and colonists. Jeez, what happens to a particular territory when a neighboring country has historical irredentist claims and can pretend aggressive expansion is some sort of noble protection of it's ethnic brethren? Let's ask Ukraine, i'm sorry, "Novorussia". Just like Vladivostok = Hǎishēnwǎi.

well i think they take in account other things, like resources and the fact that instead of having one master of the house in the world, they could be their own masters and do their own things.
and to be honest if USA currency wasn't used anymore for international trade it wouldn't survive

also this is from Former World Bank President https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a0zhc1y_Ns
he explains shift in economy

[Nebun]

And your explanation just proves you have no idea what you're talking about in the least.

ok and Former World Bank President and Ex General of UN who was in command of all forces and so as other people like Rothschild. Your own people. Sure they too stupid to know anything about it. U know better

[Thomek]

I have to agree with Oberyn.. Russia's real long term threat is not Europe or US, it's China.

Eventually, humanity will have to dig for resources in the Tundra, probably around the same time China's population becomes high standard consumers. In the end Russians have MUCH more in common with EU/US culturally, and EU/US are as well much more stable and predictable trading partners. (Since they are slow ass democracies.)

About currency.. Plenty of people are talking about the demise of the dollar. Truth is there is no real alternative. (Maybe bitcoin one day, but they would probably not allow it to happen.)

It's better to have a reserve currency in a relatively stable and responsible democracy + huge market like the US, than letting russian or chinese dictators print another currency at will. It's just the least worse option, like many things in the world. You can criticize the dollar system all day, and I would agree, but its pointless if you don't have a credible alternative idea to replace it with. If not US, then WHO THE FUCK? 

and please edit your posts in stead of spamming new ones..

[Xant]

ok and Former World Bank President and Ex General of UN who was in command of all forces and so as other people like Rothschild. Your own people. Sure they too stupid to know anything about it. U know better

Putin said he agrees with me that you're stupid. Your own people.

[Nebun]

in ideal world russia would be best with everyone )) trading their resources, but in the world where US trying to spread its interest over russia and other countries u have to find new friends.
IF we talking about current situation. Russia doesn't gain anything from US, their trade was too low. EU trade and deals that had with Russia on the other hand are important. I'd prefer to see EU leaning towards Russian and not US. They do have a lot to trade between each other.
Now with all this sanctions all the trade was coming from EU is now taken over by Brazil and Chilli and other countries. Brazil selling all the meet that Russia use to get from Australia. Chilli fish and other stuff. Some other SA countries provide fruits that used to come from Greece. So even if Russia and EU will become friendly again i don't see how EU can return to russian market, since it will be occupied by India, China and SA countries.
It also very profitable to sell gas to europe for russia. Russia took measures and sell more to other countries, like china, but more pipes will be built within 5 years and i'm not sure if it will fully cover loosing EU as buyer.

[Nebun]

Putin said he agrees with me that you're stupid. Your own people.

ye, show me proof stupid shit head
all i provided u here are from ur own countries, i didn't provide u with any russian news or resources.

[DonNicko]

Putin said he agrees with me that you're stupid. Your own people.

very strong argument 

[Tibe]

Nebun has 0 idea on how economy works. I could very logically pinpoint that everything he just said, is false. But that would be a gigantic wall of text and he'd still deny it and continue to be dumb.

Remarakable, how politicalviews can completely rob a person of common sense.