Meanwhile in Ukraine

[LordBerenger]

Also loving this LOTR thing. Tovi, you are basically like the Easternlings. Just because Gondor kicked the shit out of them and took their lands, they think they will live better under the rule of Sauron and orcs. Gondor really is an asshole at times, but thats no excuse to kiss ass to Sauron.

How is it not an excuse? West says:"Russia = bad". Russia replies:"But, USA is bad".  They never make the argument:"No, russia is not bad".

So China is Rohan? Or Elfs?

Then i guess ISIS are UrukHai. But who is Balrog?

[Tibe]

That analogy doesn't work very well, because only Russia can be Gondor. Sauron forces would be America because they are much stronger. And Europe does kiss American asshole quite a lot, despite the Europeans in here denying it.

If you think about it. That doesnt work well either.  Fucking nerds, I wasnt planning on going to deep into it. China overpopulates everyone, America is only as good as their equip and Europe would work well as Dale or smthing, Russia would be dunland wildmen or smthing.

[Torost]

This thread... sigh.. very factual and based on logic.....

Most people that have even the slightest interest in following or reading up on armed conflicts does not have any illusions about the cruelty of war.

Does not mean you should not speak out against unnecessary cruelty and inhumane practices , just because there are worse cases out there.

The force of Adidas and Nokia astroturfing is strong in this one....

[Kafein]

Everybody is bad, but only americans think they are good and that they should rule the world ( Manifest Destiny theory).

It's amusing how this whole argument relates so closely to mere nationalism. Your point isn't that the American model is bad, it's that it doesn't come from the country you identify yourself with. You sacrifice everything in the name of national sovereignty. Somehow Russians are better off being subjects of an independent autocrat who makes terrible decisions than accepting reality and being part of the world.

[Leshma]

American "model" is awful, even they know it but they have to accept it because there is very little they can do to change it at this point. Russian "model" doesn't really exist, Soviet model did exist but collapsed. From that point onwards in Russia and similar countries, they just exploit what they can and all that goes to the rich while the majority live subpar life.

[Tibe]

American "model" is awful, even they know it but they have to accept it because there is very little they can do to change it at this point. Russian "model" doesn't really exist, Soviet model did exist but collapsed. From that point onwards in Russia and similar countries, they just exploit what they can and all that goes to the rich while the majority live subpar life.

"The soviet model?" Calling it a model is already giving it too much. Cities were built at utter random, burecracy was 2 times even more pointless and broken than it is today, corruption was even worse. It was definately not "from that point onwards". The Soviet Union and similar countries were about exploiting and elitism from day 1 of their exsistence. This is partially why Russia still struggles, bits and pieces of that Soviet "model" are still present in the mindset of the people.

 You make it sound like the collapse of the Union caused everyone who were under it to suddenly fill their own pockets. Which is about as wrong as an opinion can possibly get, Leshma...

[Xant]

8th dan in Kyokushin and Judo and 9th dan in Taekwondo. Sounds legit!

http://enewsdashboard.com/russian-president-vadimir-putin-gets-8th-degree-black-belt-karate/

[Christo]

Eh, that one was given out of 'respects' or something, iirc.

[Xant]

Those kind of dan grades are always given out of "respect", but other people have to usually work their whole life in betterment of the art before they reach 8th dan in a single art (for example, the current head guy of the Kyokushin organization is 8th dan, same as Putin..), while Putin gets three out of nowhere. There's a video of him doing Judo and he sucks at it, I can only imagine how awful he's at the other stuff. Wouldn't be surprised if he made some deal with those Russ organizations so he gets better PR.

[Vovka]

Those kind of dan grades are always given out of "respect", but other people have to usually work their whole life in betterment of the art before they reach 8th dan in a single art (for example, the current head guy of the Kyokushin organization is 8th dan, same as Putin..), while Putin gets three out of nowhere. There's a video of him doing Judo and he sucks at it, I can only imagine how awful he's at the other stuff. Wouldn't be surprised if he made some deal with those Russ organizations so he gets better PR.

ahahah   !people have to usually work their whole life in betterment of the art before they reach 8th dan! like this guys, 

[Xant]

ahahah   !people have to usually work their whole life in betterment of the art before they reach 8th dan! like this guys, 

What is that video supposed to show?

[Tibe]

I dont understand it either.

I think in a real fight boxing works a lot better than people give it credit for. I mean yea, sure you dont use legs, but good boxers have very good dodgingskills and an ability to punch someone in the face properly multiple times very fast makes sure that nomatter in what shit-fu your opponent is trained in, he simply will not have time to recover fast enough to counter anything. You can shove whatever theory you like about martial arts, but in practice it has shown that only boxing works(among very few others), if you are a regular joe.

[LordBerenger]

China model number 1. China will rekk USA economy and mass rape invade Russia.

[DonNicko]

China model number 1. China will rekk USA economy and mass rape invade Russia.

Yep, IMHO China is number one. They started thier economy movement when USA, Europe and Japan made sanctions against China. Now I see that Russia after sanctions started to invest more in production. Will see what will happen.

[Christo]

China model number 1. China will rekk USA economy and mass rape invade Russia.

china will grow larger