Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Kuujis]

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Vovkas jokes are better.

On a side note - there seems to be a bit less "russian crap-world" remaining... http://info-news.eu/possible-belarus-rebellion-in-eurasian-camp/

MADNESS! Who would not want to be part of that crap-world... MADNESS I TELL YE!

[Tovi]

Yes, russians are crazy, they don't want to become americans like everybody.

Even western propaganda is better. Invisible tanks crossing the border and a great evil Putin. Better than Lord of the Ring !

[Kuujis]

Yes, russians are crazy, they don't want to become americans like everybody.

Even western propaganda is better. Invisible tanks crossing the border and a great evil Putin. Better than Lord of the Ring !

Invisible tanks like for example these, that left tracks all over the border of russia-ukraine...
http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/google-earth-shows-how-russians-crossed.html

Or these modern russia-only AA stufs https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/560733950768066560/photo/1

Yes Tovi, you are DEFINITELY not funny enough. Keep trying though, maybe one day 

[Tovi]

It may be FAN tanks crossing the border and coming back ;)


After Snowden, another symbol of Democracy is joining Russia : Greece. 
http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2015/01/27/tsirpas-complains-to-eu-for-ukraine-statement-without-consulting-greece/

[Tibe]

Yes, russians are crazy, they don't want to become americans like everybody.

Even western propaganda is better. Invisible tanks crossing the border and a great evil Putin. Better than Lord of the Ring !

A lot of countries dont want to become americans. Entire South-America, China, India, Turkey....etc. It is okay not to like the US. USA can live with that. It is not okay to use USA as an excuse to be shitty.

[Tovi]

A lot of countries dont want to become americans. Entire South-America, China, India, Turkey....etc. It is okay not to like the US. USA can live with that. It is not okay to use USA as an excuse to be shitty.

It's not an "excuse", there is no solution to kick them out your country.
But you're right about South America, Argentina just kicked out CIA from its secret services 
The whole world, except Europa and Japan, are just tired of US hegemony.

[Tibe]

Also loving this LOTR thing. Tovi, you are basically like the Easternlings. Just because Gondor kicked the shit out of them and took their lands, they think they will live better under the rule of Sauron and orcs. Gondor really is an asshole at times, but thats no excuse to kiss ass to Sauron.

How is it not an excuse? West says:"Russia = bad". Russia replies:"But, USA is bad".  They never make the argument:"No, russia is not bad".

[Kuujis]

It may be FAN tanks crossing the border and coming back ;)


After Snowden, another symbol of Democracy is joining Russia : Greece. 
http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2015/01/27/tsirpas-complains-to-eu-for-ukraine-statement-without-consulting-greece/

Oh yes, join the long list of "russian crap-world" countries, like ... IDK - Ukraine, which was stabbed in the back by russia, Georgia, which was fucked up by russia (addmitedly - I don't remember it being called part of russian world, rather "close-abroad"), Belarus, whose leader declared "forget the russian crap-world, we are not part of it"... ALL the neighbors of russia are extremely happy to be neighboring russia. So they make military trainings "how to fight little green men". Just to be sure, that they "like" their allies  In Safe way.

A bit like trying to have a child called "eurasian economic union" (or how was it called?) while wearing a condom and using pills 

When are you going to wake up?

Bah... forget it, old and pointless question.

[Tovi]

Everybody is bad, but only americans think they are good and that they should rule the world ( Manifest Destiny theory).

About russian weapons : Actually, Novorossia lake of ammunitions and start to buy them to Russia. But there is no proof they received weapon, like tanks, from russian government.

[Vovka]

Or these modern russia-only AA stufs https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/560733950768066560/photo/1

i bet it's come from Iraq/Iran/Oman or Brasilia   

[Tovi]

Oh yes, join the long list of "russian crap-world" countries, like ... IDK - Ukraine, which was stabbed in the back by russia, Georgia, which was fucked up by russia (addmitedly - I don't remember it being called part of russian world, rather "close-abroad"), Belarus, whose leader declared "forget the russian crap-world, we are not part of it"... ALL the neighbors of russia are extremely happy to be neighboring russia. So they make military trainings "how to fight little green men". Just to be sure, that they "like" their allies  In Safe way.

A bit like trying to have a child called "eurasian economic union" (or how was it called?) while wearing a condom and using pills 

When are you going to wake up?

Bah... forget it, old and pointless question.

Greece tried the western crap economy and quit... Ukraine already lost all its gold reserve and is now in bankrupt. Europe won't help it for long time, because soon its gaz will come via Turkey gazoducs (and Greece), instead of Ukraine. Ukraine is already ruined.

Russia has quite no debt and one of the first gold reserve.

[Kuujis]

Greece tried the western crap economy and quit... Ukraine already lost all its gold reserve and is now in bankrupt. Europe won't help it for long time, because soon its gaz will come via Turkey gazoducs (and Greece), instead of Ukraine. Ukraine is already ruined.

Russia has quite no debt and one of the first gold reserve.

Ukraine was a neighboring country of russia -> Ukraine was fucked up by russia when it tried something else , right? OK, so how does this relation converts to "Greece was supposedly fucked up  by Europe (even though Greece lied to itself, cheated and got what it asked for) -> Greece will be better off with russia, who periodically keeps fucking up its supposed "allies", which are more like "satelites" and "deserve" the punishment if they dont listen to mother russia?

Its literally jumping from a toothless wolf in a sheeps skin (a.k.a. current EU) on a drugged bear, who may fuck you up "just because reasons"?

[The_Bloody_Nine]

Once again the only sensible conclusion one can draw from the last sites of this thread:

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Tovi you're so full of shit.

[Christo]

Yes, russians are crazy, they don't want to become americans like everybody.

Even western propaganda is better. Invisible tanks crossing the border and a great evil Putin. Better than Lord of the Ring !

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Tovi you're so full of shit.

[Leshma]

Also loving this LOTR thing. Tovi, you are basically like the Easternlings. Just because Gondor kicked the shit out of them and took their lands, they think they will live better under the rule of Sauron and orcs. Gondor really is an asshole at times, but thats no excuse to kiss ass to Sauron.

That analogy doesn't work very well, because only Russia can be Gondor. Sauron forces would be America because they are much stronger. And Europe does kiss American asshole quite a lot, despite the Europeans in here denying it.