Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Erzengel]

and some background information.
german link, because the russian and english sites are not that comprehensive.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udo_Ulfkotte

short summary:
christened, later atheist, then islamic and now christian again.
he has studied politics, criminology and islamic studies.
later he has worked for the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, section - foreign politics, mainliy in islamic countries.
in 2004 there was some trouble with public authorities, suspicion of breach of secrecy, but the accusation was put down.
two years later ulf was one of the founders of Pax Europa, a rightwing, maily antiislamic, party.
in 2008 he laft the party again, because it has become too radical, after all he is still politically active for the antiislamic movement.

former colleagues describe him as a "bunter hund" that means "colourful character" and has not always a positive touch. others see him more as a tale-teller.

I can confirm this. Ulfkotte is a complete weirdo... Not worth listening to his shit.

[Tibe]

The more I read that thread, the more I understand russian stoicism on anti-russianism.
The best we can work out of this is jokes and facepalm, when not trying to talk with the one-sided specialists.

They are only stoics over the internet and our tiny community doesnt have those angry retards. As in like I said, you dont understand and you wont learn anything from this thread.

[lombardsoup]

They are only stoics over the internet and our tiny community doesnt have those angry retards. As in like I said, you dont understand and you wont learn anything from this thread.

Occifer, forgib me for stepping out of line again, but it seems that we keep spending too much time devoting 400+ pages to this trollsy shit instead of improving/adding to the game this board is supposedly about

[Leshma]

This thread serves as a vent for certain individuals. Has a purpose imho. If you think it brings negativity on the table and not much else, don't blame the posters. They do what they like to do, its on moderation to allow or stop such behavior.

People who spend considerable amount of time posting, like me, don't care that much about the mod this forum is dedicated to.

[lombardsoup]

People who spend considerable amount of time posting, like me, don't care that much about the mod this forum is dedicated to.

Who does, when you get right down to it?

[Christo]

How does talking with someone equals to working with someone? Hide behind your "with" as much as you want, its obvious you tried to make him look like "he is with Russian Today, he is a witch! burn him with fire!"    Dont blame yourself, its only natural.

Failing at english again.

I'm not hiding behind anything, in fact you are the one who openly acknowledges he doesn't know what words mean.

That is natural too, of course.

[Tovi]

How mainstream medias get their "informations" :

[Anuran]

Putin ordered his troops on the Russian-Ukrainian border back. He fulfilled this demand of Kiev and the West. And on October 17 Putin and Poroshenko will probably meet in Mailand. I wonder if some more sanctions will still be imposed...

[Tibe]

How mainstream medias get their "informations" :

Theres just one massive problem with this, mr Tovi. I dont belive this horseshit. One main reason why: If he wanted to speak the "truth", he could have gone to better mediachannels than RT news, which itself has proven to be full of shit. He could have gone to Wikileaks or something, theres plenty of actually independent news in Europe, Russia and US that would gladly accept true accurate anti-west stories/evidence. If you have delicate anti-west evidence, sure, go to Russia, but dont tell about it in such a place like RT news, which basically has been proven to be shit, by everyone on planet Earth. Few people who watch it, watch it, cause its funny. Like FOX news.

[Kuujis]

Just found this

A guy asking that Givi or Gibi guy to cheer up at the end... priceless  :rolleyes:

Oh, and a relevant anecdote:
Putin "Order the men to march home"

Military leader "OK boys drive home"

Putin "No I said march, they leave the equipment there"

Military leader "But what if those sticky finger separatists find them"

Putin "Its all good we were on break"

[Butan]

Failing at english again.

I'm not hiding behind anything, in fact you are the one who openly acknowledges he doesn't know what words mean.

That is natural too, of course.

You win at semantics, but you lose at intellectual honesty.
You should work with RT

They are only stoics over the internet and our tiny community doesnt have those angry retards. As in like I said, you dont understand and you wont learn anything from this thread.

This is a pretty solid fact that Russians are tough and used to be bullied. They themselves have very openly admitted not caring about your repetitive shitposting, multiple times. Why the hell are you even still arguing about this? Majority of us knows that. Do you have a reading disability or are you just trolling?

[Anuran]

Victoria Nuland: "I think Jaz is the guy."

Victoria Nuland and Jeffrey Payette talking about the next steps in Ukraine (goes to 4:10).

After the phone call, there is a phone call in German of Helga Schmid (member of the administrative board of the European External Action Service) and Jan Tombinski (EU-ambassador in Ukraine).
Schmid is complaining about the Americans calling the EU too soft concerning sanctions and a heavy confrontation with Russia and wants Tombinski to talk to a US-ambassador to tell him that the EU is doing it more secretly to be more effective. "There shouldn't be a race [about the heavier confrontation] but it's unfair that they [the Americans] say such things [the EU is too soft]." says Schmid.

[Tibe]

This is a pretty solid fact that Russians are tough and used to be bullied. They themselves have very openly admitted not caring about your repetitive shitposting, multiple times. Why the hell are you even still arguing about this? Majority of us knows that. Do you have a reading disability or are you just trolling?

Well its not a solid fact. Your claim was entirely your opinion, which you admitted, was based around this thread, which is basically this tiny community, where I think most russians cant just speak english well enough to debate. Ivan tried it for a little bit, he couldnt handle it, too much info gone in translation, too much time wasted. Mine was based on my actual experiences and ideas and assumptions which are also influenced by statements of multiple(relatively truthful, as far as politicians go) politicians from varing countries, who have dealed with Russia for years and are dealing with them on a daily bases.

Might sound like a dick, but in this subject my opinion is superior to yours, like im pretty sure your opinon on France is superior to mine. And for some time it will be like that. Nice counterargument btw, but it made 0 sense.

[Tovi]

Theres just one massive problem with this, mr Tovi. I dont belive this horseshit. One main reason why: If he wanted to speak the "truth", he could have gone to better mediachannels than RT news, which itself has proven to be full of shit. He could have gone to Wikileaks or something, theres plenty of actually independent news in Europe, Russia and US that would gladly accept true accurate anti-west stories/evidence. If you have delicate anti-west evidence, sure, go to Russia, but dont tell about it in such a place like RT news, which basically has been proven to be shit, by everyone on planet Earth. Few people who watch it, watch it, cause its funny. Like FOX news.

The problem is that you just don't know who is Udo Ulfkotte.
If you read german you can read his book here : http://www.amazon.de/Gekaufte-Journalisten-Udo-Ulfkotte/dp/3864451434
So, now you can trust RT and stop your stupid racism against anything coming from Russia. Because this racism is US propaganda. Believe it or not, you are under influence.

If you just think about it, you will under understand why he can speaks on RT and not on Fox News or CNN.

[Tibe]

The problem is that you just don't know who is Udo Ulfkotte.
If you read german you can read his book here : http://www.amazon.de/Gekaufte-Journalisten-Udo-Ulfkotte/dp/3864451434
So, now you can trust RT and stop your stupid racism against anything coming from Russia. Because this racism is US propaganda. Believe it or not, you are under influence.

If you just think about it, you will under understand why he can speaks on RT and not on Fox News or CNN.

Learn to read. I clearly stated its RT news thats shit, not everything thats from Russia and I already stated that Fox News and CNN is also shit. And using the words "So, now you can trust RT", clearly means you are the dumbest person ever. Im pretty sure even most of the russians are laughing at that one, since its just that wrong. RT is russian version of Fox News.

Why do you think a person like Snowden, a person who undeniably actually had solid extremely confidential anti-american evidence and IS LIVING IN RUSSIA, for instance didnt give shit to RT, but gave his information to independent journalists, where it came aware to the entire public? Thats because he cares about the actual truth and people who do dont touch shit like RT with a 10 foot pole. People who go to RT dont care about the truth, they just wanna be famous. And its idiots like you Tovi, that belive everything anti-western. If you dont question things like that than you are the one under influence. You are exactly as bad as extreme pro-government propaganda listeners, exept you wear a slightly different color and think yourself better informed.

 But we've been over this by now and nothing sticks. So why do I bother...