Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Butan]

you mean the terrorist, russia is not involved. 

No, he meant the anti-fascists freedom fighters 

[Vovka]

you mean the terrorist, russia is not involved. 

terrorists beat fascists, terrorist now russia, russia won XD

[Christo]

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftherussiantimes.com%2Fnews%2F12541.html&edit-text=

Finland is Hong-Kong. Right.

They need to put down the Vodka

[Xant]

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftherussiantimes.com%2Fnews%2F12541.html&edit-text=

Finland is Hong-Kong. Right.

They need to put down the Vodka

Hahaha, this shows the level of Russian journalism perfectly. "Finland wants to join Russia." Uh... no.... it was a single member of the fourth biggest party sarcastically remarking that joining Russia would be as good as joining Nato. But hey, I guess FINLAND WANTS TO JOIN RUSSIA.

[Elmuri]

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftherussiantimes.com%2Fnews%2F12541.html&edit-text=

Finland is Hong-Kong. Right.

They need to put down the Vodka

Hmm I think the original article is from March 2013, just about big Finnish corporations and how they should invest in Russia and use the Russian market, not about being a part of Russia. I guess they have just read the head-line and misunderstood on purpose. So the article isn't really an answer to economical sanctions for Russia .

Rest of the quoted people have nothing to do with it and are wackos anyway. Awesome journalism.

Here it is if you can get anything out of it by translating

http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/jutut/mielipide/puheenvuoro/voisiko-suomi-olla-venajan-hongkong/

[Christo]

Ahahaha, good find Elmuri

[Murmillus_Prime]

Captured Ukrainian POW spills the beans on foreign mercenaries amongst the Ukrainian regime's forces.

As I said previously, both sides are playing dirty.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9f7_1410094833

But of course, video evidence isn't enough for those raised on anti-Russian propaganda on this forum.

[Lt_Anders]

Captured Ukrainian POW spills the beans on foreign mercenaries amongst the Ukrainian regime's forces.

As I said previously, both sides are playing dirty.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9f7_1410094833

FYI: Mercenaries have been around for...10k plus years. It's a legit job. You fight for someone and they pay you(more than regular troops) and if they stop, you leave.

So, they are not mercenaries in that sense. What they are is a People's Volunteer Army.

Though, i guess the "modern" version of a mercenary is a PMC.

[Murmillus_Prime]

FYI: Mercenaries have been around for...10k plus years. It's a legit job. You fight for someone and they pay you(more than regular troops) and if they stop, you leave.

So, they are not mercenaries in that sense. What they are is a People's Volunteer Army.

Though, i guess the "modern" version of a mercenary is a PMC.

Many may go over to volunteer for battalions in which the soldiers are meant to receive a monthly wage. Essentially they crossed the Ukrainian border, joined the battalion and are now paid cannon fodder for the Poroshenko regime. I didn't state they were professionals, although I wouldn't hold much doubt that paid professionals are also being utilised in the conflict by both sides.

[Murmillus_Prime]

You want to make me cry? Because that's how you make me cry. BTW - you are a liar, why should ANYONE listen to you? But if you keep insulting my friends in Ukraine calling them naztees - I WILL CRY, I GUARANTEE IT!

Oh, and Butan - I know full well, that this might be a fake. Problem with that is that there is a bunch of journos, who got this message and somehow I do not feel like they would be tweeting it, if it was not from "usual" or "known" source or deserved significance due to some other reason. I take this with a pinchpile of salt anyway. Whole ceasefire business is not going to hold, because russians don't have Mariupol+land route to Crimea at the very least, and there is this guy http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2014/09/05/russian-ambassador-anticipates-liberation-of-mariupol-in-ukraine who says that these people need to be liberated... so.
Ces't la vie (pardon me french  ).

Oh, and some lying German MP obviously... can someone from Germany confirm, that she is a know liar please?

http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-201/#4168

I am a liar? Where have I lied?

I don't call your "friends" na azi's unless they are na zi's then the deserved to be called just that, and there are many of them, (maybe not so many now, after being obliterated) amongst the Kiev regime's armed forces.

Also, please tell me why are you crying? Are you crying for the civilians being murdered by the Kiev regime, or crying for the neo na zi columns now turned to ash by the separatists grad systems in Mariupol?

[Xant]

Captured Ukrainian POW spills the beans on foreign mercenaries amongst the Ukrainian regime's forces.

As I said previously, both sides are playing dirty.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9f7_1410094833

But of course, video evidence isn't enough for those raised on anti-Russian propaganda on this forum.

How is Ukraine "playing dirty" even if they have foreign mercenaries? Or are you honestly naïve enough to believe that most soldiers sign up because of their undying patriotism? How does it matter at all whether Ukraine has "foreign" soldiers on its paylist to fight Russians?

[Murmillus_Prime]

How is Ukraine "playing dirty" even if they have foreign mercenaries? Or are you honestly naïve enough to believe that most soldiers sign up because of their undying patriotism? How does it matter at all whether Ukraine has "foreign" soldiers on its paylist to fight Russians?

Because some people believe they have the moral high ground in lambasting the separatists for taking on Russian, Chechen and other volunteers and accuse these volunteers of being Russian soldiers, although still provide little to no evidence to support this assertion. Hiring foreign fighters, especially along political lines is dirty, underhand and not in line with the Geneva convention, of course the Geneva convention has been completely disregarded by the Ukrainian regime in Kiev anyway so they might as well continue right? And who cares about international law, not NATO/West that's for sure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Mercenary_Convention

[Kafein]

Because some people believe they have the moral high ground in lambasting the separatists for taking on Russian, Chechen and other volunteers and accuse these volunteers of being Russian soldiers, although still provide little to no evidence to support this assertion.

Way to completely misunderstand the situation here (it's not like you ever show any understanding of anything anyway). The problem is not that there are Russians and Chechens in the separatist forces. The problem is that separatist forces are Russians and Chechens, and the few locals are for show. These aren't freedom fighters but rather a foreign invasion force.

[Xant]

Because some people believe they have the moral high ground in lambasting the separatists for taking on Russian, Chechen and other volunteers and accuse these volunteers of being Russian soldiers, although still provide little to no evidence to support this assertion. Hiring foreign fighters, especially along political lines is dirty, underhand and not in line with the Geneva convention, of course the Geneva convention has been completely disregarded by the Ukrainian regime in Kiev anyway so they might as well continue right? And who cares about international law, not NATO/West that's for sure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Mercenary_Convention

"Some people" have the moral high ground because Russia is invading Ukraine, and having Russian soldiers fight for the "separatists" proves that. And yeah indeed, who gives a fuck about some international law about mercenaries? All soldiers are mercenaries, saying anything else is just play-talk.

[Molly]

Besides, how many armed forces are active for the Ukraine right now? 10k? 20k? 30k?
To be honest, I don't know, doesn't really matter any way.
Let's assume 10k Ukrainian solders. 500 are Nazis. Wow, 5%... let's panic. They have all to be Nazis then, right?

Murmi, you can shake hands with the likes of Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyne and Panos. They make a fuzz cuz Norway has 2.5% Muslims and you generalize a whole states apparatus as Nazis cuz some random wankers act up.

But yes, you know a lot of things cuz <random reason> and we judge things with our brain feels.

Moving on...