Meanwhile in Ukraine

[DaveUKR]

Can someone translate the most important colour code since I cant type cyrillic to be translated if I cant copy/paste? 

Here, I tried to translate the most important info.

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Dont you see he is too stubborn? 

He's not stubborn, he's insane.

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[DonNicko]

Some info from Russian officials:
1) During this period in air there were three passenger planes, including "Boeing 777". Besides, the Russian control devices recorded ascent of the plane of the Ukrainian Air Force, allegedly Su-25, in the direction of the Malaysian Boeing. Su-25 from "Boeing" was about three to five kilometers. Kiev officials said that 17th July there wasn't any military airplanes.
2) The Russian military showed also space pictures of an arrangement of the Ukrainian Buk-1 complexes in the southeast of the country, claiming that in day of crash of "Boeing" air defense group of Ukraine near Donetsk totaled "three-four complexes", russian question was why there were Buk-1 if rebels don't have any planes.
3) To Donetsk "Boeing" went on the planned route, but further deviated a route to the north. The maximum deviation from the left border of a corridor was 14 km. Further maneuver on plane was returned to a route. What served as the exit reason for route borders, it will be possible to tell precisely only after interpretation of flight recorders
4) According to the statement of representatives of the USA, they have pictures from space, confirming that rocket firing towards the plane was made by militants, but nobody didn't see these pictures. If the American side has pictures from this satellite, we would ask to provide them on consideration of the international community. Accident it or not, but time of accident and time of supervision by this satellite coincide.
Don't blame me that I'm dumb or smth, I just write what was on briefing

[Xant]

russian question was why there were Buk-1 if rebels don't have any planes

Probably because Russia has planes

[DonNicko]

Probably because Russia has planes

I allowed that somebody will say this phrase, well maybe that is the reason
But imho it doesn't pull on the good reason.

[Beauchamp]

I allowed that somebody will say this phrase, well maybe that is the reason
But imho it doesn't pull on the good reason.

jesus crist show me one army in the world that has no anti aircraft defences. even our pitiful army in central europe has rocket systems that can down planes from 30 kms and guess what - they are deployed though we're not in war with anybody atm omg.

[Overdriven]

Some info from Russian officials:
1) During this period in air there were three passenger planes, including "Boeing 777". Besides, the Russian control devices recorded ascent of the plane of the Ukrainian Air Force, allegedly Su-25, in the direction of the Malaysian Boeing. Su-25 from "Boeing" was about three to five kilometers. Kiev officials said that 17th July there wasn't any military airplanes.
2) The Russian military showed also space pictures of an arrangement of the Ukrainian Buk-1 complexes in the southeast of the country, claiming that in day of crash of "Boeing" air defense group of Ukraine near Donetsk totaled "three-four complexes", russian question was why there were Buk-1 if rebels don't have any planes.
3) To Donetsk "Boeing" went on the planned route, but further deviated a route to the north. The maximum deviation from the left border of a corridor was 14 km. Further maneuver on plane was returned to a route. What served as the exit reason for route borders, it will be possible to tell precisely only after interpretation of flight recorders
4) According to the statement of representatives of the USA, they have pictures from space, confirming that rocket firing towards the plane was made by militants, but nobody didn't see these pictures. If the American side has pictures from this satellite, we would ask to provide them on consideration of the international community. Accident it or not, but time of accident and time of supervision by this satellite coincide.
Don't blame me that I'm dumb or smth, I just write what was on briefing

Even if there was a Ukrainian plane in the air as well, it's still a massive cock up from the separatists.

Any competent military will have anti-air systems. And it's not surprising here with Russia potentially involved.

Flight paths naturally deviate due to several conditions. You can even check this on flight trackers on that route. The lines naturally aren't in a solid block but are spread over a relatively wide space due to these deviations. 14km is nothing when you're 30km in the air.

Even before any confirmation of those photos most 'experts' confirmed that the US would be able to get such images as they usually have satellite data/images of rocket launches of such capability. As to why they haven't released them if indeed they do have them, well no doubt they are classified and wouldn't want to release them to the wider community. Tbh it serves no purpose any how. The weight of this is already massively against the separatists.

[DonNicko]

jesus crist show me one army in the world that has no anti aircraft defences. even our pitiful army in central europe has rocket systems that can down planes from 30 kms and guess what - they are deployed though we're not in war with anybody atm omg.

And what, this buks were transferred to the East, the question is why. Maybe Kiev really waits that Russia will start to bomb Ukraine by military planes. Well then I can understand the transportation of these complexes.

[Beauchamp]

And what, this buks were transferred to the East, the question is why. Maybe Kiev really waits that Russia will start to bomb Ukraine by military planes. Well then I can understand the transportation of these complexes.

hmmmmmmmm why were they moved east and not west to lets say borders with slovakia..... only ingenious military masterminds can solve this complicated puzzle.

[DonNicko]

Even if there was a Ukrainian plane in the air as well, it's still a massive cock up from the separatists.

Well yes I agree, but I want some solid prooves, I saw only some video on youtube and some pages on the social sites.

[Xant]

Well yes I agree, but I want some solid prooves, I saw only some video on youtube and some pages on the social sites.

Solid proof of what, exactly? That Ukraine doesn't fear an air attack from Slovakia? How do you even know that they were moved from anywhere and aren't always stationed around the eastern border?

[DonNicko]

Solid proof of what, exactly? That Ukraine doesn't fear an air attack from Slovakia? How do you even know that they were moved from anywhere and aren't always stationed around the eastern border?

Beauchamp, I found ingenious military mastermind.

[Yarl]

ahahahhaah
Latvia wants to play with big boys?   

http://www.mfa.gov.lv/en/news/press-releases/2014/july/21-1/

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What about it?

Baltic States have always had a growing list of Russian persona non grata, this is nothing new.

[DonNicko]

If somebody wants to listen russian official brieffing
http://stat.multimedia.mil.ru/multimedia/video/clips/more.htm?id=5088@morfVideoAudioFile with english translation

[Yarl]

What about it?

Baltic States have always had a growing list of Russian persona non grata, this is nothing new.

stronk!   

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