Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Swaggart]

How the fuck does a thread go from arguing about Ukraine, to talking about globalization, to Monsanto, to moon bases?

[Leshma]

patenting

The worst "invention" of the western world ever!

[Tomas_Miles_again]

Well it would help if inventing stuff didn't take so much time (cost so much in lost potential wages).

[Kafein]

Monsanto is, willingly or not, establishing a monopole on many seeds. This in itself is a huge problem. Furthermore, the implantation of GM crops has been shown to cause spills that eventually spread and merge with local varieties, ultimately destroying them.

The worst "invention" of the western world ever!

Without patents there would be very little point dedicating resources to research for entrepreneurs. Patents cause problems too, but protecting the inventor is necessary.

[Vovka]

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Monsanto is, willingly or not, establishing a monopole on many seeds. This in itself is a huge problem. Furthermore, the implantation of GM crops has been shown to cause spills that eventually spread and merge with local varieties, ultimately destroying them.

Without patents there would be very little point dedicating resources to research for entrepreneurs. Patents cause problems too, but protecting the inventor is necessary.

MMm monsanto i love it! yummy
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[Falka]

How the fuck does a thread go from arguing about Ukraine, to talking about globalization, to Monsanto, to moon bases?

still boring.

[Kuujis]

still boring.

But come on... just remember

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This thread became boring 100 pages ago.

Insta turn on! Don't complain too much.

On the relevant topic tough - the scenario is boring and witnessed at lease once in Crimea, plus to some extent. Apparently separatists are already asking to be added to russia... wonder how the "majority" argument works this time. Even putler seems somewhat reserved as to recognizing this farce of a referendum as a real thing...

[Molly]

For Russia it's simply not a good idea to add 2 piss poor regions with crappy industry held together by duck tape to their own crappy industry held together by duck tape.

I've heard some analyst yesterday talk about "New Russia" and how this could become interesting for Russia if Dnepopetrovsk would be added to the mix. Those 3 regions would be big enough to become a new country ("New Russia") and with the Dnepo. part being the actual interesting area for Russia.
Furthermore he said that this isn't too likely to happen tho because the goveneur of Dnepo. has his own little army established and uses those to keep law and order. There doesn't seem to be any uprising in that area because people seem to be satisfied with their relative peace and stability. The goveneur is said to be a supporter of Kiev and the EU.

It sounds legit or at least a possible scenario. It will be interesting to see how the situation develops in Dnepopetrovsk. Donezk and Luhansk seem to be lost, more or less. I think it was Donezk who already asked Moscow to become a part of the RF after the referendum generated those results. Lawrow was awfully quiet and distanced when he was asked about another addition to the RF in form of those 2 regions.

[Leshma]

Without patents there would be very little point dedicating resources to research for entrepreneurs. Patents cause problems too, but protecting the inventor is necessary.

That's a problem of capitalism. Would like to see you trying to invent something today and going through all the hoops,  to avoid stepping in someone's territory. Just imagine, you've done almost everything in a way no one has done it before but tiny fraction of your invention infringes patent no.342424 which means patent troll legal office will make sure you give all the credit to them or will make it impossible to commercialize it.

It's kinda said I have to explain this to an adult...

Also Kafein, you're not sticking to your own principles. If you're so pro globalization and USA, how about you start using english interface on your PC instead of french?

[Butan]

For Russia it's simply not a good idea to add 2 piss poor regions with crappy industry held together by duck tape to their own crappy industry held together by duck tape.

Been accusing Putler to expand in Ukraine and now you're saying they wont because they dont have a good industry?
I think they will push it if they really invested that much time/money/military in destabilization and rampant annexing.
Or they didnt?..

And if Russia had bad industry, how would more bad industry would hurt them? It would be more logical if they had good industry and didnt want any bad ones.

I dont know for Ukraine industry, but isnt south/east the richest part of the country?
Also if they can take control of more of the black sea coast and landlock Ukraine, bad industry isnt going to matter a lot, those 2 regions you speak of are part of a necessary chain of regions, and also part of where the unrest is strong.

[pepejul]

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[Leshma]

Hmm, I didn't know about this:

On March 27, the U.N. General Assembly passed a resolution rejecting Russia's annexation of Crimea. But Israel abstained, choosing to maintain relations with Moscow, which has significant sway over the course of the war in Syria and the Iran situation, both of which directly affect Israel's national security.

http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/International-Relations/Israel-pivots-to-China-India-as-US-influence-wanes

Interesting...

[Molly]

Been accusing Putler to expand in Ukraine and now you're saying they wont because they dont have a good industry?
I think they will push it if they really invested that much time/money/military in destabilization and rampant annexing.
Or they didnt?..

And if Russia had bad industry, how would more bad industry would hurt them? It would be more logical if they had good industry and didnt want any bad ones.

I dont know for Ukraine industry, but isnt south/east the richest part of the country?
Also if they can take control of more of the black sea coast and landlock Ukraine, bad industry isnt going to matter a lot, those 2 regions you speak of are part of a necessary chain of regions, and also part of where the unrest is strong.

Maybe you should take another look at the map of Ukraine. Just saying...

[Butan]

Thank you, I stand corrected!

[Prpavi]

Tought east ukraine and Donbass region especially has a massiv coal industry