Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Butan]

Its true I dont often use articles to base my arguments on, I prefer to use my -retarded- brain 

[[ptx]]

I'll be surprised, if there are no serious conflicts/confrontations today of all days.

[Christo]

Casualties as fighting breaks out in Ukraine port city of Mariupol

[Tovi]

I do not give source because no source can be 100% sure. I just give different material. I could speak a long time about why Medias are always under many influences. Be what I can say is that western medias are more isolated around the world about the Ukraine Crisis than their people think. If you watch medias from Brazil, China, India etc., they just don't understand what USA and EU are doing in Ukraine. In western countries, only alternative medias gives a different opinion.
So you can always says : "That doesn't come from MY favorite (mainstream) media, so it's bullshit".
If you admit that a media just gives the information it receive, you'll start to understand the way it works.
If you have a doubt, make your own researchs. It's always good.

[Christo]

So you can always says : "That doesn't come from MY favorite (mainstream) media, so it's bullshit".
If you admit that a media just gives the information it receive, you'll start to understand the way it works.
If you have a doubt, make your own researchs. It's always good.

Haha, most people don't want to understand though. Neither they want objective journalism.

They just want to hear their views echo back from the medium.

[DonNicko]

I don't think that everybody thinks like this woman, but...
The speech of the Deputy in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine:
"All those who speaks Russian in our hall here, brutally breaks our language law. And I need to remind them the legendary hristamatiyny phrase: In the state who doesn't speak a state language - either the guest, or the boor, or the invader. Boors simply are sent, and invaders are shoot, here then we will have an order on the language front."

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The speech on the maidan:
"It is necessary to learn in the end of the ends truthfully to read the history and to understand - our first enemy is Moscow, and it is our national road, and it is our program and the plan of action. Get up, break shackles off and with evil enemy blood sprinkle a freedom. Enemy, not ours.

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Cant understand what Moscow did to Ukraine before Maidan started?

[[ptx]]

Should learn history then. Kremlin is national enemy #1 for pretty much every nation, that has a land border with Russia, and not without a reason.

She seems like a radical fringe crackpot, though. Every government has at least one of those, right?

[DonNicko]

Should learn history then. Kremlin is national enemy #1 for pretty much every nation, that has a land border with Russia, and not without a reason.

She seems like a radical fringe crackpot, though. Every government has at least one of those, right?

What history? So you want to say that, France is  national enemy #1, Germany is  national enemy #1, Mongolia is national enemy #1 and so on?

[Molly]

What history? So you want to say that, France is  national enemy #1, Germany is  national enemy #1, Mongolia is national enemy #1 and so on?

This post forces the question of "Are you actually that stupid or just pretending to be?"

[[ptx]]

What history? So you want to say that, France is  national enemy #1, Germany is  national enemy #1, Mongolia is national enemy #1 and so on?

What?

[DonNicko]

This post forces the question of "Are you actually that stupid or just pretending to be?"

What do you mean?

[[ptx]]

I don't know if this is a language barrier or something, but your post made no sense whatsoever.

[DonNicko]

What?

It means yes we had wars with some of them, but not Ukraine, Belarus and other some neighbors. But why you say that Kremlin is national enemy #1 for pretty much every nation, that has a land border with Russia, and not without a reason. So according to your logic I wrote my message, understand?

[Molly]

I'm not too good in geography but I don't think Germany nor France have a border to Russia. Guess I misunderstood

[[ptx]]

This is why i said, learn history. It's not about wars. It's about how Kremlin treated these nations.

Baltic nations were serfs to German settlers for 700 years, they fought against our first independent government after WW1, then tried to topple it in a surprise attack. Our territory was once again occupied by German forces during WW2, who were quite responsible for the events, that lead to us losing our first independence in the first place, yet they are held in very good regard over here. Same with other nations, that at some point had occupied this territory, such as Swedes and Poles. Yet Kremlin is THE foe. Same story for many other nations (with the exception of Belorussians, since they failed to remain a nation of its own). Learn history and find out why.