Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Thomek]

Yes because of little transparency and corrupt law, no safety for journalists, no one knows the truth, so the press also becomes corrupted.

Also, the higher up, the higher should be the standards. What we see in Ukraine, where the president himself builds a giant palace is extremely harmful. Not because of the resources spent, but because of the signals he sends to everyone else.

[BlindGuy]

Just to tell you how it should work..

In norway in recent years, there have been many cases forcing ministers to resign. One where the minister for immigration had to resign because she told a friend she should apply to the position of "Childrens Guardian", another because his department had directly given money (about 30k  euros) to a small "Self defence for girls" program organized by his youth party without them having to apply for the money.

That's what it takes, a small sidestep or abuse of power and the press slaughters you. The higher up, the higher the chance of falling.

We are ruthless against any kind of small mistake or corruption, and that's how it should be.

Thomek sees a scapegoat and jumps on the bandwagon.

Wake up man, politician is a very old word, look up it's original definition.

[Dark_Blade]

any comments from democratic europeans to this day of peaceful demonstrations?

[Latvian]

who won?

[Kalp]

any comments from democratic europeans to this day of peaceful demonstrations?

Another killed people, enough ?

[Dark_Blade]

I really dont understand why demonstrators are allowed to do whatever they want and being not convicted by most of non ukrainians.

didnt not died yet  ukrainian glory and freedom!
yet, brothers-ukrainians, destiny will smile to us!
all our enemy will gone as dew under fire!
we will rule our land, brothers-ukrainians!

Soul and body we will spend for our freedom!
and will show that we are, brothers, born of cossacks!

Ukrainian hymn, first verse and chorus. translated almost litterally by me

may you tell me what future can have the country with this text in country's title? probably something like current one, no matter who is leading the country.
this day is the first day when I watched the stream... all what some people says from tribune... this provokators really deserve to die.
their voices really makes heart burning ... but when you listening what they are saying...
whining, screaming about people should stand their ground for their freedom and their life, for everything what they have and kick off this president, burn the palaces of oligharhs... and when the car moved a little bit forward on the demonstrators we can hear "WHAT ARE YOU DOING! ITS UKRAINIAN NATION! ITS A PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION!".
really??? and thats hows true heroes are doing??? cowardly assholes who can only scream from their tribunes and stand behind the backs of silly people who are listening to him, who belive him... no matter what BULLSHIT he says. today everything was started not by the goverment(check the news if you want) and after firearms being used by demonstrators whole world can see the face of ukrainian freedom.

[Kafein]

I really dont understand why demonstrators are allowed to do whatever they want and being not convicted by most of non ukrainians.

didnt not died yet  ukrainian glory and freedom!
yet, brothers-ukrainians, destiny will smile to us!
all our enemy will gone as dew under fire!
we will rule our land, brothers-ukrainians!

Soul and body we will spend for our freedom!
and will show that we are, brothers, born of cossacks!

Ukrainian hymn, first verse and chorus. translated almost litterally by me

may you tell me what future can have the country with this text in country's title? probably something like current one, no matter who is leading the country.
this day is the first day when I watched the stream... all what some people says from tribune... this provokators really deserve to die.
their voices really makes heart burning ... but when you listening what they are saying...
whining, screaming about people should stand their ground for their freedom and their life, for everything what they have and kick off this president, burn the palaces of oligharhs... and when the car moved a little bit forward on the demonstrators we can hear "WHAT ARE YOU DOING! ITS UKRAINIAN NATION! ITS A PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION!".
really??? and thats hows true heroes are doing??? cowardly assholes who can only scream from their tribunes and stand behind the backs of silly people who are listening to him, who belive him... no matter what BULLSHIT he says. today everything was started not by the goverment(check the news if you want) and after firearms being used by demonstrators whole world can see the face of ukrainian freedom.

Well, would you not be afraid of the secret police making you "dissappear" with no way for your family to ever get you or your corpse back? Do you think that is normal and should happen in a democratic and free country?

[Dark_Blade]

Well, would you not be afraid of the secret police making you "dissappear" with no way for your family to ever get you or your corpse back? Do you think that is normal and should happen in a democratic and free country?

1. if I did nothing special, just came on peaceful demonstration - i have nothing to be scared about. dont tell me that this few people were randoms. and actually no proofs that it was secret police, this thing is not finished yet.
2. i am talking about shit currently going there.

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its hard to count how many laws this demonstration break already. they are criminals already and its huge fault of our goverment. criminals should be in jail. gender and age is not matter. thats what I think, citizen of ukraine. not better, not worse than they are but i wasnt breaking any laws but they was. I really recomend you to watch stream of this retardness... sadly you wont understand what bullshit they says from tribunes.

[Xant]

Well, would you not be afraid of the secret police making you "dissappear" with no way for your family to ever get you or your corpse back? Do you think that is normal and should happen in a democratic and free country?

Why would it matter if somebody's corpse is "gotten back"?

[Kafein]

Why would it matter if somebody's corpse is "gotten back"?

Proof of death, proper ceremony, proper mourning.

[Butan]

And no autopsy.

[Xant]

Proof of death, proper ceremony, proper mourning.

Why do you need a corpse for ceremony and mourning?

[Sniger]

dunno if posted, sry if re-post

power to da firehose

[BASNAK]

So if I understood correctly, The protestors started with occupying important governmental buildings? No fucking wonder the police intervened. Any self-respecting government, whether good or bad wouldn't allow their governmental buildings and workers to be denied from working. It would have been another thing if the protests started peacefully and was a protest and not a coup-attempt.

dunno if posted, sry if re-post

power to da firehose

I feel sorry for the police here. I'm also suprised they are so passive. Some of them are even taken, dafuq. I know that in Sweden when a police officer was injured they opened fire with live ammunition (Gothenburg riot).

[Kafein]

Why do you need a corpse for ceremony and mourning?

It's quite evident for the ceremony. You need the corpse to bury, burn, offer to wild animals, whatever. For the mourning, it helps.