Too many horse archers`

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

But Kenda you will always be a scrub, you put leet in your forum profile you pretentious molly!

Know that feel when you were legitly googling 1337, not realizing the obvious, and thinking it was a reference to something that happened during that year...
god I feel stupid

[Leshma]

Dueling is not EU1 my friend.

Was dueling Kenda on EU3 as part of preparation process. Lost every time I think. Funny thing is that he's feinting like mad on EU3 but never seen him feint on other servers. Typical german kid, goes to duel server with macro feints turned on, just to shut them off while playing battle because feinting is not convenient in there.

[Chasey]

feinting in battle gets you spammed and killed

[Ronin]

feinting in battle gets you spammed and killed

Not that it doesn't get you killed in EU3 too.

[Chosen1]

I think what people hate about HAs/HXs is that there is no 'counter' for them.

I admittedly have fun fighting and dying to players that are better than me at melee, and when I play ranged I don't mind when enemy infantry runs me down or I get picked off by a lancer.

But it is definitely not fun to try and dodge arrows from a guy on a horse who can just shoot you and bump you and then trot away when he feels threatened. Horse archery is difficult,
but when people are really good at it, it ruins the game for everyone else.

[Vibe]

Not that it doesn't get you killed in EU3 too.

not if you're any decent at it no

[Panos_]

I hope the thing you're claiming they're abusing is bannerbalance, cause besides bannerbalance (and hardcore loomstacking) byzstacktium hardly does anything seriously abusive... And everyone in a clan with over 5 players on a server at once are abusing bannerbalance, bannerbalance is the single most broken and overpowered feature in cRPG and can only be countered by bannerbalance, please nerf bannerbalance.

Am I speaking chinese or something?

When I said that Byzantiums abuse, of course I didnt meant the banner balance, go and read my post one more time, I was reffering to their pike/lspear/ashwood/awlpike death squad, nearly everyone of them abuses it, have you ever seen Zotte, Chase, Teeth and Knitler (when he was in Byz) rolling on EU1 with their 2d stab abuse? OH BOY, THAT WAS SO MUCH FUN!

but he cant say about banner balance abuse because he runs around with an alt using merc banner ^^

but zlisch you have to remember everything in crpg is aboooze aboooze!

The only reason I use the Merc banner, is because you guys tend to have a lot of active players after midnight, and I like playing with company (TS mostly).

In the past I`ve rolled with Deserters banner and Byzantium banner , for a while for the same reason.

I'm pretty sure he's refering to more serious "abuses" such as hiltslashing and spamming, you know the things that any player that left the trench tier can play against

I had you for a more smarter guy than this, apparently I was wrong.

Sure they weren't all intended, but truth be told just blocking, attacking, holding, and kicking is boring as fuck, and Panos cannot possibly claim he "abuses" less than your average byz member if such things are considered abuse, especially seeing as this game has existed for a shitload of years now, and most things that are "abusive" have been nerfed to compensate for the abusiveness, and things that weren't the least bit abusive have been buffed, it's not like balancers don't take the pikes ability to wacky ass shit into account when they give it the horrible speed and damage it has now, so the "abuse" is a recognized game feature by the devs, same way the best stabby 1hs have gotten their stabs nerfed now that Tydeus buffed their stabs (an animation reach change would've still been way better than a damage nerf, watching Panos play you can see he does as much questionable shit as a 2h player or a piker, and he'd see that the game is fairly balanced and most abuse (some things that aren't wellknown admittedly aren't) is taken into account in balance if he didn't only play other classes than pole determined to shittalk them and call them easymode before he even picks them up

No I dont abuse nothing, and thats why I`m proud about myself, because I know that every kill I manage to get or every duel I manage to win, is because I used my brain, my blocking skills and my footwork, not because I managed to abuse a face stab or a lolstab.

I use an unloomed Long Bardiche, its one of the slowest polearms out there, maybe you should give it a try, and see for yourself, you can`t hitslash anyone anymore, because some months ago, Tydeus fixed the polearm swings, I don`t abuse jack shit, and thats why I`m here right now pointing fingers so easy.

Deal with it.
 

[Vibe]

You (and other bad players) see it as abuse, I see it as advanced game mechanics. When a game hits a skill ceiling players find a way to "breach" it. In Warband/cRPG that is hiltslashing, facestabs, "spamming"/double attacks, feinting, etc. If this wasn't present we'd have a turn based attack -> block -> attack game.

It happens in every competitive game. You have two options, learn how to fight/counter it like every mediocre player or get rekt.

[Panos_]

You (and other bad players)

You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?

[Vibe]

You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?

If you could walk the walk we wouldn't be having this talk.

[Panos_]

If you could walk the walk we wouldn't be having this talk.

Yeah, though so.


Sorry that I dont like being an abusive little cunt like the majority of this community, and I prefer playing a game clean.

When you change your mind, PM me, I`m always looking for a chance to prove myself .

[Vibe]

No Panos, I can't be arsed coming back and refreshing the skills to school you. Maybe in the next game.

[Panos_]

bla bla bla

[Ikarus]

hm, so much talking about abuse of weapons

On the one hand, you´re right: lots of weapons can be abused and it´s too easy to take down skilled players with them. Also it´s true that cRPG is a bandwagon-community; if there´s something pretty uber, people are going to use it/try it out. (as seen with the current HA wave)

Nevertheless, what I´ve learned from competitive online gaming is this: It is no use, NO USE, if you play "fair" and don´t take uber weapons, when the rest of the people do. Last time I realized that was 3 years ago before I joined Mount and Blade and played some COD:MW2: all those fuckers were running around with grenade launchers (tubing), g18 pistols (or simply "little overpowered machineguns") and that imba intervention-sniper rifle. You needed NO SKILL for those things and you were able to rock the whole enemy team with it. And everyone was using it (online gaming communities are all "bandwagon communities") Back then I didn´t take these items on purpose, because it was a douchy way to get through the game and it was against my honor...

After I quit the game, I realized: dude, fuck online game honor; already sounds douchy if you just say it. You don´t play with "uber" weapons because you want to impress some random internet people? (sorry Sabjorn, but playing "clean" leads you nowhere :/ ) If you use the items, they´ll swear at you; if you don´t use the items and you´re successful with something else, they´ll still find a way to make you look douchy and still will swear at you.

Come on, let´s see, what class isn´t douchy:
2h? Douchemy old friend 2h hero
shielder? Skimitar/Military Hammer/blabla spammer, 1h stab asshole coward
xbow, archer, ha, hxbow....rangemy old friend
thrower....throwmy old friend/easykill thrower
shield/rondel dagger...stabbermy old friendger agiwhore
agibuild....agiwhore spammer
cav....fucking cav, lancecav, 1hcav, ha,...
polearm...I wont start with that. Warspear, Awlpike,...

And I bet there´s even more imba stuff

SO, what class is actually left to play so you won´t be yelled at? Naked guy with strawhat n club?

I just wanna say that there´s a lot overpowered stuff out there, and f.e. compared to COD, we got a way BIGGER collection of imba stuff than COD, where you only needed 3 weapons and 1,2 my old friendgy abilities (like "commando" instantstab), in other words, 1 build to rock them all.

Hm. When I hear "imba items" in a game, I imagine 1,2 things which are way better than all the others. Looking at cRPG, we got a whole list of those imba things...there can´t be something imbalanced if nearly every class and every weapon in a game is imba...that almost sounds like...

...no don´t say it, they´ll kill you, Ikaruz...

...that almost sounds like...

...like balance.

In a nutshell: choose one of the imba classes, pick the one which suits you the most and master it.

I´m taking my knockdown-spam-hammer and my 1-shot-my old friend-arbalest and shoot some HA now.

Peace.

[Ronin]

Yeah people were complaining about me in eu3, using a knockdown weapon and hitting people when I knock them to the ground (Bar mace).

Meanwhile they were s-keying, kicking, using uberfast weapons with uber ath/wpf. But no. I am a no-skiller when I use a property in my weapon, while they are pro because they are fighting with their "honorable" weapons. The weapon itself even gets you slows your movement down because of the weight of 5.0. No need to say they can escape via rolling.