..., but all of a sudden there are very little plants but there are an abundant amount of other fist.
It is not all of a sudden, it can take millions of years to develop a atypical trait of a species.
Though they don't have a gene/trait to have teeth they get teeth anyways out of nowhere.
Not out of nowhere but incremental.
Color changes may be a fast example, but also one which doesnt devide species, so lets go with 'teeth no teeth'. Through mutation on an atomic level, genes are influenced f.e. by the bombardmend of cosmic radiation. Very small and tiny changes, starting often without any effect, are implemented that way in the DNA. Over time, those may amass with other changes, not on its own but often first in combination with similar other changes. Like more and more changes to a text where letters randomly are exchanged, the meaning of the text changes as a whole. Only over time also is proven, if these changes actually make any sense, if it gives an adavantage, the sense to the changes hasnt been inherint from start, but can be prooven as negelctable, therefor you see more species not around anymore then there are still.
That is a quite a fascenating process, and even as complettly proofable, through the list of species collected in and out of existance, through DNA samples or reconstructions, through different other biological mechanisms supported, it still is a magical, godly process. Here the scientist may cry out ;) but look at how evolution works. How near perfectly(which they arent) often the outcomes are cosntructed, how beautiful those creatures are and the concepts they embrass for survival. I am full on the side of evolutionary theory though, as everything is prooven and not disprooven, still you have to stand in awe when you see the complexity of this system and its implications, that is truely godly.
You know i think, the term god was not always used in the way we do it nowadays for a consiouness deity with a plan for us, but it evolved on a social level into it. A long time ago there was a stage of the evolution of religions, when it was about concepts people saw but not yet understood, the weather , death, crops , fertility, sun, moon, the seasons al those major influences or concepts which needed to be explained but early mankind havent had the tools yet to do so suffeciently, we know from the point Homo Sapiens Sapiens is identified, he was able to pretty much the same thinking as we are nowadays as the genetic codes for that had been available, he had quite a list of predessors though to come that far some also already with quite some accomplishments, and from them also by stories at night been told some of the mysteries and taken into the general consioussness of Homo Sapiens. Through the widespreading from the former Pangäa, over the sepparated landmasses, in a time period of 30000 years humnakind spread from afrika over to asia back to europe and over the bering sea, within one of the ice ages, to america. That happened in settlement waves, over time nomadic tribes became city states, became states, had borders(fuck you rome for introducing the limes ^^) and developed into nowadays societies.
Parrallel in that cultural and social change, the shamanistik religions, very much bound to the environment but also had always a sence of keeping the tribe close to each other and regulating struggles within the tribe changed to also to be able to cope with struggles in societies of increasing numbers. Independent thinkers from time to time brought us new Idears, may it only be the idear what an Idear is, about form and concept, about logic, systematic processes to question and define knowledge. Philosophies emerged and religions had to struggle with those and were influenced by them. Over thousands of years hundreds of religions of hundreds of tribes, died of. Either by elemination of those tribes, by including those tribes into a state, merging religions or replacing them. Many other ways why some died of many ways how they where influenced by other religons.
Look at the base concepts of the abramic but also hinduism and buddism concepts ... so many parralles.
Point is, while we have found proof for evolution on a biological level, there is also proof for evolution on a religious level. That maybe for these religions the most terrifying concept, they may think they would vanish. Still there is a chance if you evolve the concepts which are struggling, the religon will emerge as stronger with less contradiction ... perhaps it is time to write a new book ^^ or do you believe that god came down to the roman emperor to tell him to kick some priest buts so they make a conclave in Konstantinopel to then combine all their religious principles, rules , stories into one book ... or is there a slight chance ^^ that it was as historians tell, he had the intent to controll the masses around the midterranean sea by just another tool a state sponsered/supported religion with a coherent text(well from the point of view about 1700 years back coherent) and a few hundred years later a military genral with kind of a grudge against his enemies introduced another book. So the bible written by many Quoran written more or less by one, he didnt write it himself right? It was compiled of his thoughts but written by others and surly never ever changed a letter ^^ in the process. Anyhow the christian bible is more open to change sofar what i can see then Quran, but the Quran already has also concepts of the bible included, kind of an evolutionary tree branch leading away from the old ... new ... testament. And as there are Sunites and Shiits, we do have there two possible evolutionary branches both owrking very hard to get rid of the other.
Lets step back to DNA for a bit, you know there is a lot of rubbish in the DNA right? Or at least not activly used code.
I have a problem with fossils. Fossils only show characteristics (which are open to anyone's interpretation) not transition. My other problem is this, has there ever been evidence of a change of kinds or just a change in species? Like the dinosaur that had feathers, does having feathers make it a bird (changing of kind) or just a different species of dinosaur?
How do they do that? If they are truly adapting they are actually getting rid of most of their already existing bad traits and keeping a few of the already existing good ones not making any new ones. Now if they were evolving they would be getting whole new traits so they could make themselves into something else. But by your statement they weren't evolving merely adapting, so it's not possible.
That code is not active still there, dont ask me the exact mechanism behind it, but as in a libary you may have books on your table for reading, you put them back and thats it, they arent read anymore. There are possible triggers wich may get the code/book back activated/read again, it may be a avarage tempreature or a higher CO2 level in the atmosphere, we often just dont know yet, but we know there is this inactive code.
Suprsingly enough parts of those code are very very similar of DNA of other species, some parts of the active code aswell, then again an eye is an eye, a hair is a hair, all they may have slight variations, but the conceptiual plan behind it to describe those are very similar. As we are also all bouned by 'other' laws/theories of nature, i find it hardly surpsing that evolution by its typical trial & error appraoch found similar idears/forms/concepts/systems/plans within total different species ... from that part coems also the Theory if there are aliens they may have similar features then any other animal(us including) here on earth ...
I am not a biologist, friend of me has studied it and we talk often about it as i find it very interesting, still i am not that knowledgeable or keen or have the intention to convince anyone. Evolutionary biology is quite a complex field, the singled out concepts of it but are perfectly understandable. There but also counts, the whole is bigger then the sum of the parts.
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To everyone else, maybe I was being ignorant to the facts before i'll be more open from now on.
if nothing else, this already made this discussion worth it.
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And then happened the best thing in my life: I started doubting things.
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when i was 18-19, i was roughly woken up and after that, everything was been put into doubt and questioned. Since then it was nearly 20 years of roler coster, lots of pain and lots of fun, but i am still doubting and questioning everything and i wouldnt want it any other way. Life can be scary to me, but also very rewarding, and as you mentioned, family is important, also to get through the rough spots, as are friends. Many people speak about awakening, wich sounds so metaphysical ... what i don't like, still i think people often need certain triggers, so that they try to broaden their approach of seeing things.
