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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #225 on: November 29, 2013, 01:18:00 am »
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How do you know it took billions of years, were you there? How do I know the universe was made by God? Well actually I do but that's besides the point.
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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #226 on: November 29, 2013, 02:09:13 am »
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If you've studied some United States history and other things like it for a little while you would see the United Stated was an exception. It's early years they focused on keeping religious beliefs the core of it's country. Slowly but surely they started separating religious beliefs and standards from public life. If you do a quick study you will see how much social health (crime) has risen over the years.

I'm now convinced you are a retard with literally no facts on your side beyond what you made up in your head.
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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #227 on: November 29, 2013, 03:57:19 am »
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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #228 on: November 29, 2013, 07:43:52 am »
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Yeah, you most definitely did not study evolution.

Yeah because the part you quoted was me talking about adaption not evolution, which proves my point.

pleeeeasse just read my post for christ's sake

i included 2 books which explain in very simple terms the evidence for evolution, the problem you're having is you don't seem to understand it, read some books and you will! :)

it's pretty bloody infallable. a scientist is a man who sees things which happen, and writes them down. these are called 'facts'. there's a really really really really good reason the vast majority of the worlds scientists believe evolution happened, please for the love of god read the books.

Yeah i'll look at those books, know your enemy better I guess.  :P

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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #229 on: November 29, 2013, 08:10:15 am »
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> Jarold ignores the mountains of evidence
> says there's no evidence provided yet

Creationist for y'all.

(and doesn't even understand how adaptations show how evolution works)
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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #230 on: November 29, 2013, 11:34:39 am »
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This thread vs Jarold in a nutshell:

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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #231 on: November 29, 2013, 12:03:20 pm »
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Oh my fucking god, I actually watched the video those pictures are from... I've never wanted to slap anyone more than I wanted to slap that silly little bitch and her condescending fake smiley-face.
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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #232 on: November 29, 2013, 12:30:48 pm »
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Yeah because the part you quoted was me talking about adaption not evolution, which proves my point.

You invent a word without giving a proper definition, "adaptation", then talk about genes, then argue that your erroneous statement about genes was not evolution but "adapation", but somehow involved genes ?


Also, crime has been on a steady decline in the First World for more than a century...

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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #233 on: November 29, 2013, 01:17:40 pm »
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Also, crime has been on a steady decline in the First World for more than a century...
Depends on where you are looking at, and the exact timelines(century is quite a big timeline). Small ups and downs are always there, still in quite a big part of the USA crime is pretty constantly on the rise and as mentioned before largly because of the criminalization of substance abuse. Looking at other "first world" countries you are right though, there is a relation between living in a wealthy country, wich has the means to help those of their population in need and crime rates.

Including my own opinion, social and liberal policies formost lead to these improvments, Whereby conservative right wing policies are mostly there to safe their own skins.
The curious thing about this simplification of religion and state in this context is:
Religion is claimed mostly by right wing, conservatives, traditionalist parties all over the world, while the messages within those religions often are better represented by the policies of social and liberal parties. That i see as quite a contradiction and again reason to leave religion out of politics.

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Btw i dislike these categorizations making a difference in first/second/third world, whereby second world often isn't even used at all as term, just a difference between first and third world ^^ ... this i would see as condescending if i would live in a "third world" country categorized that way. When we are talking about countries with less GDP, then we could say countries with GDP lower then averrage or something similar, yes it is longer but also less arrogant.
Hopefully i can remind myself of that ^^, next time not to compare on a meta level/categorization but closer to the points to be done. Language matters.
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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #234 on: November 29, 2013, 01:21:42 pm »
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That term is misused anyway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #235 on: November 29, 2013, 01:44:44 pm »
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Bill Hicks has a good way of looking into this matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gYnPNR8p8I
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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #236 on: November 29, 2013, 01:50:41 pm »
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That term is misused anyway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

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..., including Switzerland and Austria.
*repressinglaughter,remindingmyselfnottomentionit...failing*

... damn my own preconceptions ... erm chadz ... erm third world austria ... need any help .. care packages perhaps?
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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #237 on: November 29, 2013, 01:57:48 pm »
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finland are third world pls gib moni rich first world greks
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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #238 on: November 29, 2013, 02:01:13 pm »
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what makes human evolution so funny is that the rabble actually kills off the smart ones.

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Re: Thoughts on Religion and the State
« Reply #239 on: November 29, 2013, 02:15:34 pm »
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what makes human evolution so funny is that the rabble actually kills off the smart ones.
Nope. If you get killed off by rabble, you are not smart.
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