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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2013, 05:47:18 am »
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Detta, fixa till skiten så att folk kan få bostäder lite utspritt, så att dom som får flytta till sverige lär sig svenska och sen se till att det finns jobb åt alla som vi tar in. Och då ska de inte behöva ta jobb från svenskar. Läste nån artikel för ett tag sedan att invandrare får en del av lönen betald av staten så att de blir anställda över svenskar.

Och personligen tycker jag att vi borde vara emot deras jäkla religion, inte bygga moskeer åt dem. Ingenting bra kommer från islam det är bara ondska.

Tycker det bästa skulle vara att hjälpa dom på plats istället för att behöva ta hit dom, om det nu är möjligt.
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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2013, 01:04:48 pm »
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Nu är jag inte 100% säker om detta gäller alla moskéer. Men dom flesta byggs från min egen erfarenhet alltid med donationer från muslimer. Moskén var jag bor, får inte en enda slant från staten eller kommunen utan betalas av alla dem som besöker den årligen. Samma grej i Lund. Oftast när någon vill bygga ny moské åker de från moské till moské runt hela Sverige och visar byggnadsplanerna, pris och frågar efter donationer, Ibland gör dem det utomlands också som i England och Mellanöstern. Ganska hårt arbete.

Ser inte varför folk inte skulle få bygga tempel med deras egna pengar.

Tänker inte gå in på någon religiös debatt nu men att påstå att allt som kommer ifrån Islam är bara ondska är ett ignorant påstående. Skulle även gissa att du inte har mycket erfarenhet med praktiserande muslimer. Om du talar om invandrare som bara inte äter gris och säger att de är muslimer så är det en helt annan fråga.
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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2013, 01:19:05 pm »
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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2013, 01:43:33 pm »
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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2013, 02:15:05 pm »
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Poor indian lads who cant use their thousands of year old symbol without being put into the same catagory created from that austrian fuckup in the last centuary.

I guess then Sweden is on the second place, first place goes to Germany ... We even can't have a crucifix at schools or other public places because its supposed to be racist towards muslims and other religions ... Also, some (left) political parties want to remove or at least rename all christian feasts/holiday because they "insult" all the muslims living here ...

If it's similar worse in Sweden and other nordic countries (and I know it's like that in our western neighbours in France, Netherlands and in the UK too to some extent) I see black for europe. But hey, we had this discussion already some times and it leads to nowhere, same as current social and political actions ...
I am agnostik and while i like traditions in general, i dont like traditions which put people into places where they wouldnt have a choice. Like making me a christian from birth or anyone. Teach them what a christian is, and all other religions, teach them ethics and give them then the choice to choose for themselves.

Contrary to that stands religios symbols in schools in germany, which is a constant reminder of who is boss in these regions and from one point of view also already propaganda. Securalism isnt going far enough. We have actually political parties in germany calling themselves "Christ... something soemthing" and they are the ruling parties. Again, i am not against some of the values spreaded by chrisitanity, but in a modern state, religions shouldnt be included in the states system on any level.
I find it quite ironic, that those who fear most they would loose their religious identity because of a missing symbol in school, are most likely not regularly going to church anyways ^^. 45% of germans went into christmess this year, meaning 55% didnt.


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It's all bullshit, and that is why nationalists are growing every day. That is why I believe Europe will once again face an nationalistic era (not chocolate chip cookie era, just plain nationalistic, it's a big difference, thank you).
More over the money if at all.
This is what I strongly hope for. Our (which means all western-european) politicians are hypocrites, deadbeats, liars, incompetent robber barons that piss on their own people for profits and "political correctness", with leftist politicians being the biggest traitors to their own countrymen.
National Pride like patriot sentiments are used by politicians to get elected.
While those on the right often are lead by capitalistic interests, those on the left more by socialistic interests. In germany before the Berlin Wall came down, we had a social economy, based on Erhards thoughts mainly. With the Sovietblock failing, the amiricans taking that as sign from god that capitalism wins, instead that communism didnt work out(there is a difference in perspective), the whole western world went all out with capitalism, just have a look at the different monitary crisis we had been in since then. Greed and deregulations combined produced huge clusterfucks.
Add the globalisation of companies, something which is going on for a long time and you may get a hint why some of our problems are recurring.

Nationalism is as bad just on another level as is pure capatalism. Aslong we dont find a balance between different idears and idealogies and not always say "Only" that idear is valid, "only" that way we have to march, but open up the idears for shades of possibities, nuances of choice, plentiful ways to choose from and not "only one way". When the politicians promise you the lands of milk and honey, the paradise, they are fucked up, those lands dont exist, never will, life is about struggle and can be improved gradually by many idears not at once by 'only' one idear. There is no one true political party. There are merily different points of views, at certain points in time, their idears may become more valid, depending on the problems currently most pressuring.
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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2013, 02:40:47 pm »
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Detta, fixa till skiten så att folk kan få bostäder lite utspritt, så att dom som får flytta till sverige lär sig svenska och sen se till att det finns jobb åt alla som vi tar in. Och då ska de inte behöva ta jobb från svenskar. Läste nån artikel för ett tag sedan att invandrare får en del av lönen betald av staten så att de blir anställda över svenskar.

Och personligen tycker jag att vi borde vara emot deras jäkla religion, inte bygga moskeer åt dem. Ingenting bra kommer från islam det är bara ondska.

Tycker det bästa skulle vara att hjälpa dom på plats istället för att behöva ta hit dom, om det nu är möjligt.

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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2014, 04:49:54 pm »
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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2014, 04:53:04 pm »
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Nothing strange here, considering it is Sweden.
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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2014, 05:11:21 pm »
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Yeah well it is known Mona Sahlin is a nutjob.
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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2014, 05:19:05 pm »
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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2014, 05:20:53 pm »
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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2014, 05:22:09 pm »
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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2014, 06:20:27 pm »
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Many might disagree with me now and call me extreme. But I consider Sweden's punishment for crime too lenient and a joke. Firstly, the number of years given for serious crime are too few. Like those involved in the armed helicopter robbery who got 2-4 years prison, or the many cases where rape and violence is barely punished. Secondly, the months or years they spent in prison aren't really that punishing. This is the result when you google Swedish prison: Swedish Prisons. Just like Student dorm rooms in my opinion. Now, I have never spent time in prison to know what it's like, but access to free food, gym and TV (and computer?) with a solo dorm room doesn't sound that bad. Hell, I've even heard they get better food than kids do in our schools.

We treat our criminals better than our homeless, and millions around the world can only dream of swapping place with a Swedish prison-inmate. And if I ever end up homeless the first thing I'll do is commit some non violent crime to just end up in prison, Free everything bitches.

I'd personally like to see stricter penalties for crime, bringing back capital punishment and deporting foreigners who commit serious crimes within a 10-20 years after immigration. Now I'll stop ranting since my post is becoming too long.
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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2014, 08:11:33 pm »
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Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2014, 05:38:20 am »
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Many might disagree with me now and call me extreme. But I consider Sweden's punishment for crime too lenient and a joke. Firstly, the number of years given for serious crime are too few. Like those involved in the armed helicopter robbery who got 2-4 years prison, or the many cases where rape and violence is barely punished. Secondly, the months or years they spent in prison aren't really that punishing. This is the result when you google Swedish prison: Swedish Prisons. Just like Student dorm rooms in my opinion. Now, I have never spent time in prison to know what it's like, but access to free food, gym and TV (and computer?) with a solo dorm room doesn't sound that bad. Hell, I've even heard they get better food than kids do in our schools.

We treat our criminals better than our homeless, and millions around the world can only dream of swapping place with a Swedish prison-inmate. And if I ever end up homeless the first thing I'll do is commit some non violent crime to just end up in prison, Free everything bitches.

I'd personally like to see stricter penalties for crime, bringing back capital punishment and deporting foreigners who commit serious crimes within a 10-20 years after immigration. Now I'll stop ranting since my post is becoming too long.

While I also feel those who do crimes like you have mentioned deserve a long time in prison, I at the same time think the best method to help them and stop them from doing it again would be to try to help them, with a few years of prison and therapy of some sort. Try to teach them better instead of just punishing them i guess.
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