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Triangle Shield
« on: November 16, 2013, 03:39:48 am »
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Why isnt it usable on horse back?
Apart from speed, it doesnt have any advantage compared to other similar sized shields such as the heavy norman shield. I feel like the stats were just put out randomly, eg its 7 weight but 2 slots?

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I'd rather see it usable on horse back and have its speed reduced. Atm berely anyone is using it.

Would be nice to see it change in the incoming patch  :)
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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 07:04:25 am »
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This surprises me as really it has some of the best stats of any shield. (Health and speed)

I think its height would make it very powerful on horseback, If it is one slot that is why that could be another balancing factor.


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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2013, 07:11:03 am »
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That is a bit odd.

It's smaller and/or lighter than the Norman Shields, the Fur Covered Shield, and the Heavy Kite Shield.

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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2013, 01:15:22 pm »
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This surprises me as really it has some of the best stats of any shield. (Health and speed)

I think its height would make it very powerful on horseback, If it is one slot that is why that could be another balancing factor.
As Huscarlton_Banks says, it is smaller than the norman shields, but the norman shields are still usable on horse back  :?

If it is allowed on horseback, it should get a small nerf obviously, it speed should be reduced and it should be kept to 2 slots, but its weight increases to 8-9. (All other shield above 8 weight are 2 slots, and all the other ones below 8 weight are 1 slots, dunno why the triangle shield has to be different).


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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2013, 06:58:27 pm »
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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2013, 07:09:43 pm »
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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 12:05:31 am »
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Is this shield the best melee shield?

I think it is. Especially when heirloomed.



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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 03:41:29 am »
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I never noticed how beefy it was for the speed + weight. Used an unloomed one and I think I like it better than my +3 steel buckler. With 7 shield skill it's pretty durable and incredibly fast. Good coverage too.

It's kind of annoying that all of the high tier shields are so heavy. Undermines a build that focuses on athletics and shield skill.
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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 09:58:11 am »
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Yes yes, i understand that it has very nice stats, but thats not the question here.
If people think its one of the best shield around, why isnt anyone using it?

As i have said previously, remove its unusable on horseback perk and nerf its speed and weight. People will start using it a bit more (starting with me).

It would be nice to have a dev feedback or anyone in charge of item balancing (Tydeus?)
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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 10:17:16 am »
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Yes yes, i understand that it has very nice stats, but thats not the question here.
If people think its one of the best shield around, why isnt anyone using it?

As i have said previously, remove its unusable on horseback perk and nerf its speed and weight. People will start using it a bit more (starting with me).

It would be nice to have a dev feedback or anyone in charge of item balancing (Tydeus?)

This is never a valid argument to why a shield is OP or not, its peoples style and choice, some people like the look other shields than this one and prefer the use of others, i don't see anyone these days who looks at stats and decides on a shield then, for one i dont, i look at style over substance in c-rpg.
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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2013, 10:35:47 am »
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This is never a valid argument to why a shield is OP or not, its peoples style and choice, some people like the look other shields than this one and prefer the use of others, i don't see anyone these days who looks at stats and decides on a shield then, for one i dont, i look at style over substance in c-rpg.
You'd be surprised at how much people look at speed and weight for their shield, why do you think so much people use the elite cav shield and knightly kite shield? Only for style? i dont think so. I was pointing this out to show A_Hot_Elf_Princess and owens that even if the triangle shield seemed OP nobody is using it for a reason... you missed my point it seems like most people in this topic.

I love the style of the shield, mainly because it is Byzantine themed, but i cant use it because its unusable on horse back, this is why i made this topic. Not to discuss stats or anything else.

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It would be nice to have a dev feedback or anyone in charge of item balancing (Tydeus?)

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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 02:58:47 pm »
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The number of armours it fits is not that high, unfortunately. Stat-wise it's quite the beast!

I'm in love with round heraldic shields myself and therefore use the regular round shield on the ground while I use the elite cav shield on horseback.
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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 03:03:42 pm »
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Is this shield the best melee shield?

I think it is. Especially when heirloomed.

Except the armor is so low, even loomed regular crossbows will penetrate it. Nothing more infuriating as a shielder than running at an xbowman with your shield up, then getting shot in the head through your shield. I use a 37 armor shield, and nothing penetrates except occasionally ballistae.

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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2013, 01:19:20 pm »
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^That is true


Frankly I never had any problems with the elite cavs hp but if you wanted a shield to use against shield breakers, archers, throwers and in ordinary combat its pretty hard to match.

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Re: Triangle Shield
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2013, 04:51:40 pm »
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because just like the Eastern horse, everything needs at least one statistically useless item.

Would u like more explanation Gurnisson?

You dont need anymore coverage or speed then a round shield, speed is useless, and it has poor armor.  Its not really good at anything, and more so excels at trying to be good at everything, which sounds just like the eastern horse, another useless item with bad stats and horrible difficulty.

http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/eastern-horsez!/msg830340/#msg830340
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