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[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Claims his riddelin is allowing him to concentrate and not just shit about in cRPG and the cRPG forum, claims it on the cRPG forum.

[enigmatic_stranger]

Try anapana meditation.

[Leshma]

The specialist seemed legit so I don't worry about him prescribing anything I don't need. He sremed like the kind of guy that hopes he can take you down for lying.
He uses the in july 2013 clinically approved diagnostic test where he monitored my brain activity during certain tasks. Apparently I lost caution when the input went down.
Even if he was wrong, I am happy I can focus on my books lpnger than 10 minutes for once.
Btw you should see my primary school reports from my teacher,  it's weird my parents never noticed the negative trend on me not paying attention
.Vet

Interesting. Well, I have/had similar problem. Thing is, if you don't find something interesting you need to really force yourself to study it. I believe computers are the cause, the way information is presented on internet is different than how it is written in most school books. We have spent way too much time with computers and it's very hard for us to do things other way.

Also, games are at fault as well. By playing games you learn certain way of progression which involves finishing up tasks as they come, without actually preparing for them. In other words, educational system needs to be change so it consists of smaller tasks which are easy to accomplish. Those smaller task should be integral part of bigger problem which should be solved. Learning theory for the sake of knowing theory which will be used in practice in the future is complete waste of time and energy. Computers teach us to learn only things we need at given moment, not to stockpile information we might need in the future. That's the exact reason why we invented computers, to do that instead of us.

Imaginary diseases like ADD are bullshit. Computers changed the way we function, it's not a disease ffs. Fifty years from now, people who think and work differently than your typical computer geek will be considered "ill".

We evolved, our teachers have not. I must say I'm glad seeing all these new schools with different approach. Give time, they will surpass those traditionalist schools who believe their way of teaching kids is the best way and will stay like that for centuries to come.

Those who don't have these problems just have good discipline. But I doubt they actually prefer the old way of learning stuff.

[no_rules_just_play]

Claims his riddelin is allowing him to concentrate and not just shit about in cRPG and the cRPG forum, claims it on the cRPG forum.

Sorry for checking the forum once in every while zlisch it won't happen again.

Btw I'm not claiming ADD, real or not was my only problem. I had and still have a certain addiction problem that I need to fight, atleast I can now focus on other stuff without immediatelly groping to the more stimulating input of games.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Sorry for checking the forum once in every while zlisch it won't happen again.

Btw I'm not claiming ADD, real or not was my only problem. I had and still have a certain addiction problem that I need to fight, atleast I can now focus on other stuff without immediatelly groping to the more stimulating input of games.

Come on babe, you know that I still love you. I'd still advice trying to take that shit as little as necessary, it'll fuck you up bad.

[Berserkadin]

You should mix ritalin with alcohol, the active substance in ritaline, metylphenidate, interacts in a very fun way with alcohol. It transforms into etylphenidate, wich is abit like cocaine. Party hard!

[no_rules_just_play]

Come on babe, you know that I still love you. I'd still advice trying to take that shit as little as necessary, it'll fuck you up bad.

Don't worry, I don't take it personal sweetie;) It is indeed good advice, as for now the doc still has to decided if I should take rilatin outside the exams.

You should mix ritalin with alcohol, the active substance in ritaline, metylphenidate, interacts in a very fun way with alcohol. It transforms into etylphenidate, wich is abit like cocaine. Party hard!

Being drunk while your brain is being made aware of everything, sounds a bit intense

[Kafein]

Interesting. Well, I have/had similar problem. Thing is, if you don't find something interesting you need to really force yourself to study it. I believe computers are the cause, the way information is presented on internet is different than how it is written in most school books. We have spent way too much time with computers and it's very hard for us to do things other way.

Also, games are at fault as well. By playing games you learn certain way of progression which involves finishing up tasks as they come, without actually preparing for them. In other words, educational system needs to be change so it consists of smaller tasks which are easy to accomplish. Those smaller task should be integral part of bigger problem which should be solved. Learning theory for the sake of knowing theory which will be used in practice in the future is complete waste of time and energy. Computers teach us to learn only things we need at given moment, not to stockpile information we might need in the future. That's the exact reason why we invented computers, to do that instead of us.

Imaginary diseases like ADD are bullshit. Computers changed the way we function, it's not a disease ffs. Fifty years from now, people who think and work differently than your typical computer geek will be considered "ill".

We evolved, our teachers have not. I must say I'm glad seeing all these new schools with different approach. Give time, they will surpass those traditionalist schools who believe their way of teaching kids is the best way and will stay like that for centuries to come.

Those who don't have these problems just have good discipline. But I doubt they actually prefer the old way of learning stuff.

I don't agree. The ability to concentrate for long periods of time on a single, tough problem is very valuable and will remain so. Learning this way makes you more efficient in the long run.

[Berserkadin]

Being drunk while your brain is being made aware of everything, sounds a bit intense

Nono, it's super cool. You feel very sharp, social and awesome, while at the same time having a very fun time. You can't get to drunk either, you'll never pass out or anything.

[Leshma]

I don't agree. The ability to concentrate for long periods of time on a single, tough problem is very valuable and will remain so. Learning this way makes you more efficient in the long run.

To solve any big problem, you need to split into smaller parts. So, what's the difference?

Besides, computers won't replace humans. That's just the current trend, because computers are atm much better than humans at calculating stuff but they can't solve every problem on their own. In the future, computers and humans will converge. At least that's how I see it.

[Kafein]

To solve any big problem, you need to split into smaller parts. So, what's the difference?

That's one way to solve problems, that only works in some cases, when you already know how to do it. Other problems require creative thought and a global viewpoint. And the thing is, computers far exceed our ability to solve the first kind, which also happens to be the easiest for us too.

Also, a long attention span is required to be able to understand difficult concepts. There are many things you can't understand in parts without understanding the other parts.

[zagibu]

Computers can't solve problems at all. They don't even understand problems. They are just computers.

[Kafein]

Computers can't solve problems at all. They don't even understand problems. They are just computers.

They can solve problems when those problems are expressed in a particular syntax that the computer can process. Conversely, to understand a problem doesn't mean you can find a solution either.

[zagibu]

They can solve problems when those problems are expressed in a particular syntax that the computer can process. Conversely, to understand a problem doesn't mean you can find a solution either.

No, they can't solve a problem. They can quickly calculate results for a specific input set, if the problem is already solved beforehand. But they cannot tackle a new problem on their own. No computer has ever solved a previously unsolved problem. They don't have problem solving skills, all they can do is compute.

[Kafein]

No, they can't solve a problem. They can quickly calculate results for a specific input set, if the problem is already solved beforehand. But they cannot tackle a new problem on their own. No computer has ever solved a previously unsolved problem. They don't have problem solving skills, all they can do is compute.

What is the difference between "computing" and "solving" ? Even if you define solving by "finding an algorithm that leads to the solution of any instance of a problem", that still doesn't mean computers are incapable of doing that, since nothing forbids a computer to try all possible algorithms. If there exists an algorithm for the problem, then a computer that tries all algorithms in sequence will eventually find it.