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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2013, 09:55:08 pm »
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I guess he mixed the 1st and 2nd WW there.
When west germany annexed east germany, nobody moved a finger too.

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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2013, 10:08:01 pm »
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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2013, 10:13:33 pm »
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WW1 was mostly a british product but all nations involved "wanted" a war. 
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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2013, 10:15:12 pm »
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They don't teach that in Germany. Probably depends on the teacher and school level but usually it is broken down as a result of the late imperialism with almost everyone involved being responsible.

15 years ago, when I had history in school they did.

Obviously it was a completely new theory for our mainstream media, since pretty much all of the big newspapers wrote an article about the book and I am certain it is still the official stance of our government, why else would they have paid reparations for WW1 in 2010?

http://www.focus.de/wissen/mensch/geschichte/tid-33895/wer-zettelte-den-ersten-weltkrieg-an-historiker-stellt-deutschlands-kriegsschuld-infrage_aid_1119586.html
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/kultur/christopher-clark-ueber-den-ersten-weltkrieg-die-jahrhundertkatastrophe/8964830.html
http://www.welt.de/geschichte/article121231599/Besessen-von-der-deutschen-Kriegsschuld.html
http://www.zeit.de/2013/43/erster-weltkrieg-ausbruch-gespraech-christopher-clark-manfried-rauchensteiner
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/christopher-clark-die-schlafwandler-defensiver-patriotismus-12616149.html

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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2013, 10:17:46 pm »
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15 years ago, when I had history in school they did.

Obviously it was a completely new theory for our mainstream media, since pretty much all of the big newspapers wrote an article about the book and I am certain it is still the official stance of our government, why else would they have paid reparations for WW1 in 2010?

http://www.focus.de/wissen/mensch/geschichte/tid-33895/wer-zettelte-den-ersten-weltkrieg-an-historiker-stellt-deutschlands-kriegsschuld-infrage_aid_1119586.html
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/kultur/christopher-clark-ueber-den-ersten-weltkrieg-die-jahrhundertkatastrophe/8964830.html
http://www.welt.de/geschichte/article121231599/Besessen-von-der-deutschen-Kriegsschuld.html
http://www.zeit.de/2013/43/erster-weltkrieg-ausbruch-gespraech-christopher-clark-manfried-rauchensteiner
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/christopher-clark-die-schlafwandler-defensiver-patriotismus-12616149.html


you paid reparations because you lost, and afaik you declared war on france? (i think) so they demanded it
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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2013, 10:32:47 pm »
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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2013, 11:56:29 pm »
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World War I reparation costs ended in germany around 2010, now it ww II , and  a lot payments to victims of the holocoust including the israelian state, who use the money to buy weapons, the irony.

http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2023140,00.html

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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #67 on: November 12, 2013, 11:57:21 pm »
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I don't even like Xant, not my fault you manage to be the bigger retard in this topic like usual, you even outshine Bjord on rare occasion.
no u
When west germany annexed east germany, nobody moved a finger too.

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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2013, 12:08:54 am »
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World War I reparation costs ended in germany around 2010, now it ww II , and  a lot payments to victims of the holocoust including the israelian state, who use the money to buy weapons, the irony.

http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2023140,00.html
I don't find it particularly ironic that they want to ensure it never happens again.
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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #69 on: November 13, 2013, 12:52:01 am »
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Although an expansion into Palestine isn't exactly self-defense...

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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #70 on: November 13, 2013, 12:58:48 am »
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Although an expansion into Palestine isn't exactly self-defense...
Everyone needs a little lebensraum.
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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2013, 01:07:27 am »
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I wont post my opinion regarding this matter, because cmp is lurking at the forum, and I don`t want to end up banned  :mrgreen:


But before I go I want to say this.


Molly, drop your higher than thou attitude, you aren`t cool, you are just one obnoxious little cunt, ok, we got it by now, you hate that you are a German, you hate those who fight for their countries and their country men, you hate your culture, your history, everything.

Just shut up.
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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2013, 01:09:23 am »
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Although an expansion into Palestine isn't exactly self-defense...
Actually, yes it is, considering the constant rocket attacks from Palestine.
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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2013, 01:12:34 am »
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It could be argued that the Palestinians are defending themselves.

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Re: World War 2 written by Winners?
« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2013, 01:44:17 am »
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It could be argued that they are not.
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