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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #195 on: November 10, 2013, 03:11:41 am »
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #196 on: November 10, 2013, 04:12:43 am »
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and cmp, who interacts with his consumers as well as he develops games, way to go pal, keep driving em away, you're doing great.

Well then, what are you waiting for?

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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #197 on: November 10, 2013, 04:28:47 am »
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Well then, what are you waiting for?

you dont have any of my money, so........go fuck yourself, was that what you wanted bud?  was that what you were looking for? because thats the answer im going to give.  I dont care what your supposed title is, im not going to cram my head up your ass to please you.

on a lighter note, you are trying to be a developer, make money, and maybe should work on your public relation skills, or elect someone else to do the talking on your behalf.
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #198 on: November 10, 2013, 04:44:17 am »
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Wait, didn't I drive you away? Why are you still here arguing?

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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #199 on: November 10, 2013, 05:10:12 am »
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pls don't cmp, I want more drama
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #200 on: November 10, 2013, 05:16:36 am »
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Sorry Christo, I don't think I can get him to come back after I drove him away like that.

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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #201 on: November 10, 2013, 05:40:11 am »
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pls don't cmp, I want more drama
Didn't we already have enough?
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #202 on: November 10, 2013, 06:09:02 am »
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #203 on: November 10, 2013, 06:15:30 am »
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Don't get me wrong, I like drama as much as the next guy...

I don't know why but it just gets scary when you and cmp team up to stir it :lol:
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #204 on: November 10, 2013, 07:38:13 am »
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Scary? Why?  :twisted:
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #205 on: November 10, 2013, 09:52:00 am »
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Well AntiBlitz, I was willing to let it rest.  Now you leave me no choice but to help you understand yourself a little better.

First of all, personal insults in a debate about ideology, politics etc are idiotic. Everyone knows that, who has developed beyond the mental age of 15.
But you are even worse: You try to insult me based only on assumptions that help you maintain your enclosed, small-minded point of view, in which you are the hero and facts are irrelevant.
It's exactly the way of thinking that leads to blind, ignorant patriotism. People like you are poison for democracy. You're also a disgrace for your country and the whole of humanity.

After reading your justifications for the wars on Iraq and Afghanistan, I wish there was a way to turn people like you over to the people of those countries.
You are the reason for anti-americanism in the world - your ignorance, your arrogance, your sheer stupidity. You back the crimes and the world, especially the arab world, has every reason to be mad.

You talk about countries that hopefully benefit the world in 50 years? Don't you see how you understand absolutely nothing?
"Underdeveloped" countries benefit fat, ignorant kids like yourself and the west as a whole. We keep them poor. We steal their ressources and make sure they don't get their fair share.
The same happens in all of Africa and many parts of the world. We benefit from the poverty in those countries. We need them, their slave-work and their ressources, but we deny them a lifestyle like ours, even though they are working harder than any of us ever will.
We don't let them become industrialized and develop an autonomous economy on their own, because then we couldn't exploit them anymore.
Your cheap first-world luxuries are only possible because of "unproductive" countries. You benifit without even understanding, you ignorant fuck.

You are even too stupid to understand that I'm not blaming my government. I was blaming yours for their war crimes and deceptions.

If anything, I'm blaming governments in general for being indebted puppets of the capital with no real power - not for my personal sake, but for the sake of the world.
Other than that, I've been talking about the system all this time. Although I understand, for someone with the brain of a hamster, "government" equals "system". I can't believe how stupid you are, sorry.
You have no idea what money really is, how it operates and accumulates, how economies work...
In your small mind, we all just have to work hard and then everybody will be rich. You're pathetic.

You have shown to everyone here, that you know absolutely nothing about this world. That's not a crime by itself. But the way you are acting... you are indeed complete scum.
I don't consider myself a genius, but next to you I am fucking Einstein.

I don't claim to understand everything and I can be wrong. But at least I'm trying. Ignorant idiots like you just insult the thinking population and call everything you don't understand (which is a lot) a conspiracy theory, to defend your right to be indifferent vegetables.

Do you think I give a shit, what you "hold as correct" about me?
All your assumptions have taught us nothing about me, but a lot about you.
I suggest you just shut up and stop surprising us with even higher levels of retardation. We've seen enough.
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #206 on: November 10, 2013, 10:54:01 am »
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you dont have any of my money, so........go fuck yourself, was that what you wanted bud?  was that what you were looking for? because thats the answer im going to give.  I dont care what your supposed title is, im not going to cram my head up your ass to please you.

on a lighter note, you are trying to be a developer, make money, and maybe should work on your public relation skills, or elect someone else to do the talking on your behalf.

As far as I know for a lot people straight forward, rough  devs are prefered instead of arselickers - especially in indie games. So even if he scares one retard away, he might win over two non-retards for that deed. The "please everyone, no matter how stupid as long they have money" doctrine is kinda bland.

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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #207 on: November 10, 2013, 11:09:01 am »
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Ferret, I'm not sure if you've read Antiblitz's posts in other threads, but typing that many paragraphs to him is pointless. He's not capable of reason.
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #208 on: November 10, 2013, 11:09:20 am »
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As far as I know for a lot people straight forward, rough  devs are prefered instead of arselickers - especially in indie games. So even if he scares one retard away, he might win over two non-retards for that deed. The "please everyone, no matter how stupid as long they have money" doctrine is kinda bland.

Most people that play games don't go to forums. You might drive some away from the forum, but your comments will exist forever on the internet, and calling people retards no matter the context will only come back to bite you in the ass imo. It just makes you look unprofessional and will tar your reputation. It will get taken out of context and appear on gaming websites, people will just see you ass asshole devs and people don't like to give their money to assholes

I'm talking about when/if Donkey becomes more than small indie devs though, for now its close nit, all you can lose is some possible contributes in terms of their free time (like Axephante) and a small amount of players. Learning some people skills now will be better than screwing up later on though imo. You can have tact without kissing ass
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #209 on: November 10, 2013, 12:33:20 pm »
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using oil as a scapegoat is the catch all argument winner, everything is always about oil with the U.S right?  well of course if you have the opportunity to benefit from war, you will grab the reigns and make sure you get it, but to say we just fire up wars all over oil is silly. Benefiting your country from world affairs is what must be done when the world literally depends on you making it revolve. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations#2010.E2.80.93present

Just look at that link, not even 95% of those operations included oil as a war goal.
I never said all US wars were about oil, rather it is about control and domination of other countries, like any other imperial power before it, for example the European major powers in the colonial age. Could we at least be honest to ourselves about this? I'm not out to bash the US in particular, I'm just pointing out universal laws regarding states in an international hierarchy and standard empire policy.

Usually it is about markets and controlling ressources, if a country will not open for foreign investment troops are sent in to make sure the country is open for exploitation (read 'Confessions of an Economic Hitman', very elightening documentation of this from an inside source). Almost any US 'intervention' happened this way, from the early imperialist wars of your own theater, following the Monroe Doctrine making the hemisphere a North American mare nostrom, invading Haiti, Cuba, Texas, Nicaragua and other remnants of the collapsing Spanish Empire, supporting coups and brutal dictatorships like in Chile, Africa and South Vietnam to the invasions and coups of the Middle East.
WWI and II was mainly about securing the for US industry important European export market. But there's other motives in other wars of course, the wars in Indo China like the illegal invasion and years and years of terror and chemical bombardement of the small, poor rural country of Vietnam was about international prestige. Like the godfather sending out goons to put a hammer to the hands of feet of the small business clerk that dares to defy him publicly. Analogy lent from Chomsky but it fits the picture perfectly. Same with Afghanistan, when the country wouldn't extradite or even confirm if Osama Bin Laden was in the country, they get invaded, as if national sovereignty was something only attributed to the US itself. There's many different ways these wars could have been dealt with within a lawful framework.

In general I don't like the way you speak of military intervention as if it was some kind of right held by any country. Please educate yourself a bit on international law and understand that your own country, no matter how well you like it (and like with any country there's plenty of other things to be liked about it), is the worst breaker of international law there is, even dismissing outright treaties that the US itself has proposed, clearly only wishing to subject others to them when it fits its policy, but exempting itself from it due to the dangerous principle of American exceptionalism. Most empires that has come before has done the same thing, so this is not new historically, the British had the 'White Man's Burden', the French had a civilizing mission, America has 'democracy'.. Let us remember how nice a position it is for an imperial power to call itself 'world police' when that really means you're above the law and can invade any threat as you see fit, as the real police holding a monopoly on violence. The only difference between now and the past is that we are less honest about it (propaganda is today PR), but think about this; Rome never invaded a single country or started a single war! It was always forced upon them for security reasons or whatever, and thus it grew into the Roman Empire. Look closely at the history of the British Empire and you'll find much the same, 'we' are always right, 'they' are always wrong.

The US has so far exempted themselves from the world court, no american citizen can be prosecuted in the Hague no matter his crimes, the US has exempted themselves from the Geneve convention, the laws of war and peace does not apply to America (but America has them apply to everyone else except close allies), America abstains from laws against biological and chemical weapons, it abstains from many laws regarding nuclear proliferation (for example when it was seriously proposed to make the Middle East a 'nuclear free zone' by every country in the world including Iran, but the US and Israel abstained..), it rejects declaring war before attacking, in fact it has vetoed more security council resolutions since 1972 than any other member, and this mostly in contempt of international law when other countries sued the US in the world court, for example for heavy US support for the murderous contras, or intentional civilian bombardements, be they in Dresden, Korea, Kosovo, Sudan or Fallujah, or horrific torture or CIA-sponsored terrorism.

The people of the world went through two world wars before we got a decent international system in place for cooperation and mutual benefit, and even to prosecute war criminals of any country at the world court, and UN resolutions that can democratically send out international peace keeping forces whenever needed. These laws are in place because they could make for a safer, better world, not just something you break whenever it fits your policies.


To defend these matters through ignorance or not being able to glean obvious moral truisms when the historical evidence is so evident is truly a great feat of indoctrination. You are not serving your country, in fact quite the opposite. The people making these policies are not average Americans, the people as a whole bear little responsibility for the actions of a small power elite, which are the only ones who in the end benefit from the wars, your kind or my kind, AntiBlitz, we are just cannon fodder, or at best feudal peasants.


ps. if anyone needs sources please write me, this is all well-documented.

pps. if the US was really the first state in history to act out of moral compulsion and not self-interest why will it not subject to international law nor subject itself to the same moral standards as everyone else? Every single American president since the founding would have been hanged at Nuremberg for war crimes and crimes against humanity, if not for double standards. Same with Syrian chemical weapons to just name a recent example, who defies international law by producing, storing and using chemical and biological weapons more than anyone else? That's right, you guessed it.

ppps. You mention countries that might benefit from US invasion? Look at Haiti and Nicaragua, the countries that has had most US intervention over the course of time; both are now the poorest most miserable countries of the entire region  :|
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