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Re: Tw@er fined £15,000 for re-tweet.
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2013, 05:47:01 pm »
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I can tell you how it is handled in German law. Not only the original statement is liable, but also the distribution of said statement, even if it's distributed in the form "so and so is saying X about Y". There are a few exceptions, like statements relating to trials.

Seriously ? This isn't an applicable law at all. Is it not possible to preface the message with legalese that states you are not responsible ?

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Re: Tw@er fined £15,000 for re-tweet.
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2013, 05:51:30 pm »
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Assuming that being called a child molester is no biggie for you, Kafein, if i were a big deal somewhere on the internets, with plenty of people that read what i post, and i heard someone say that you are a massive moron, that earns crack money by renting out his ass on shady alleys (or something akin to that) and went and gave this rumour a fuckton of publicity, using my followers and whatnot - you're saying i shouldn't be responsible for anything?

Makes sense.

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Re: Tw@er fined £15,000 for re-tweet.
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2013, 05:57:08 pm »
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Assuming that being called a child molester is no biggie for you, Kafein, if i were a big deal somewhere on the internets, with plenty of people that read what i post, and i heard someone say that you are a massive moron, that earns crack money by renting out his ass on shady alleys (or something akin to that) and went and gave this rumour a fuckton of publicity, using my followers and whatnot - you're saying i shouldn't be responsible for anything?

Makes sense.

What I say is that actually acting against it on my part would make the problem worse. The part about your responsability I'm honestly not sure about. I need some time to think about it but I'm in a hurry :(

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Re: Tw@er fined £15,000 for re-tweet.
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2013, 05:59:21 pm »
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Not in this case it doesn't.

That thing already was big (10k retweets?), him suing and winning the case does draw some extra attention, but at least it puts a big THIS IS A LIE label over that whole thing, as well as stopping it from spreading further (under the threat of lawsuits).

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Re: Tw@er fined £15,000 for re-tweet.
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2013, 07:02:23 pm »
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Seriously ? This isn't an applicable law at all. Is it not possible to preface the message with legalese that states you are not responsible ?

No, that doesn't matter. If you speak German, you can read it here: http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__186.html You can get two years in prison for distributing such information in public.
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Re: Tw@er fined £15,000 for re-tweet.
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2013, 07:33:17 pm »
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Not overly surprising, considering that Germany is the country of retarded laws.
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Re: Tw@er fined £15,000 for re-tweet.
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2013, 07:51:46 pm »
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In Switzerland, the same law exists, and it can even be applied to protect the honor of deceased people. However, the punishment is less severe (monetary penalty of 180 daily rates). The daily rate is flexible and based on the income of the offender. Can be as low as 0 and as high as 3000 CHF (1 CHF > 1 Dollar). It's usually around 20 - 50, so it would probably result in a penalty of around 5000 - 10000 dollars.
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Re: Tw@er fined £15,000 for re-tweet.
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2013, 11:36:31 pm »
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Clearly the issue here is that Twatter is a grey area when it comes to libel laws. They were not written with Twatter in mind, so this is very likely a precedent establishing settlement whereby the retwatter is held to the same responsibility as the original twatter.

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Re: Tw@er fined £15,000 for re-tweet.
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2013, 11:49:05 pm »
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Re: Tw@er fined £15,000 for re-tweet.
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2013, 12:52:46 am »
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Clearly the issue here is that Twatter is a grey area when it comes to libel laws. They were not written with Twatter in mind, so this is very likely a precedent establishing settlement whereby the retwatter is held to the same responsibility as the original twatter.

Twitter does very well fall under that law. Or please explain how twitter is not "public information distribution".
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Re: Tw@er fined £15,000 for re-tweet.
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Re: Tw@er fined £15,000 for re-tweet.
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2013, 12:08:23 pm »
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Twitter does very well fall under that law. Or please explain how twitter is not "public information distribution".

I have no idea. I just wanted to say twatter as much as possible.