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[XyNox]

I dont understand whats so hard to get. No matter if cRPG, internet, real life, if somebody is an asshole you treat him like one, no ? Is this different where you people live ?

If somebody e.g. proposes to nerf 2h damage by 80 %, just for the lulz and out of 2h-hate and it passes ( wont happen, I know, just for illustrating purposes ), I dont think people will be like "hey, I am upset because this was total bullshit but I wont raise my opinion about it because, you know, that would make me look like a weirdo".

[Leshma]

Guess what, we're not the ones who are making changes. There was so many things proposed over last three years, I don't recall that once devs said, ohkay you're right *insert random nick* we'll do it your way. Devs do it how they see fit and what their statistics suggest them. It has nothing to do with balance suggestions.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Are you sure? I had my share of stupid posts, but I don't recall writing something like that.

You didn't 100% say it as directly, but you basically said it, in several posts and threads, several times.

[Leshma]

You didn't 100% say it as directly, but you basically said it, in several posts and threads, several times.

Oh well, if that's the case (I'll take your word for it, Zlisch) there's no point of me posting on forums where I called majority of people worthless, scum and pathetic. That's what I truly believe and unlike some, I'll stick to my principles and find something else to do between rounds other than posting here. Over and out.

[XyNox]

Guess what, we're not the ones who are making changes. There was so many things proposed over last three years, I don't recall that once devs said, ohkay you're right *insert random nick* we'll do it your way. Devs do it how they see fit and what their statistics suggest them. It has nothing to do with balance suggestions.

Then I am glad we have made our points clear as I think that player feedback in fact did make or at least influence the changes we have today. Since devs apparently answer such questions only once in a blue moon we are left with pure speculation at that point.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Oh well, if that's the case (I'll take your word for it, Zlisch) there's no point of me posting on forums where I called majority of people worthless, scum and pathetic. That's what I truly believe and unlike some, I'll stick to my principles and find something else to do between rounds other than posting here. Over and out.

Leshma, just saying and all, but you said far worse things to me than (and me to you) than what you've said to the rest of the community, and we still value you as a member of our tiny clan. Everyone goes a bit crazy sometimes, some more than others (me and you being some of those), doesn't mean you didn't occasionally say something worth reading, nor that you haven't been way less schizophrenic since you returned. Again, just my opinion, but it takes a bigger person to apologize and state that he was wrong or overexaggerated than to leave and never return. Also, I'd take someone who occasionally was okay enough and was an asshole the rest of the time over a Rufioish guy who just is somewhat of an asshole.

[Prpavi]

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Well, I dont mind to continue this discussion if you want to.

Those 2 statements you mention, being the ban request and my ( partial ) view of the community are linked together quite noticably.

First, I would have requested this ban for anybody that I am not friends with or know any better ingame. This was never about you specificly Leshma. No hard feelings about that.

The reason why I reported you for such a minor incident however, and this is what may not seem clear to you, is linked to the second qoute you posted. Granted, I overreacted, was pissed and was too harsh by accusing everyone around me with that qoute. But in the end, because I am an archer, I earn a lot of disrespect just for playing a certain class.

Throughout the history of cRPG I get nerfed, my gameexperience spoiled patch by patch because of ignorant people who shamelessly lobby for their own advantage. Call me a my old friendcher, I dont give a fuck but the fact, and I will never understand this, that devs thought it was a wise decision to screw ranged players over and over and over again just to satisfy the melee lobby is beyond sanity for me.
And, oh boy, it doesnt stop here. Instead of being grateful as a melee player that devs suck their dicks in regular intervals, what do they do ? They lobby even more, complaining even more. On top of the nerfs they dont even try to fight as a team. With the weightnerf my chances of fighting a fair duel are pretty much gone and I rely on melee support. Naturally, I dont get any melee support because watching your own my old friendchers die is "funny" of course.

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This behaviour renders people indeed one the most worthless and pathetic human being in my eyes. It is not even a "its only a game" thing anymore, it is a certain type of attitude that is part of ones personaly afterall, not part of the game. You probably cannot imagine the hate I have against the stereotype 2h player that demands nerfs as compensation for his lack of braincells, which then, ludicrously enough, even gets approved by devs, although devs themselves exactly know that it is wrong in the first place as they mock their own decision right after. It is total WTF.

Now to draw the circle Leshma: You, a melee player, dare to teamattack me in a "jokingly manner". I am sorry but after the paragraph above you may understand that I dont accept this kind of joke from anyone who I dont know any better personally and that I will request a ban as soon as rules allow it instead of turning a blind eye. I cant possibly hold a grudge against you personally Leshma as I never met you in person but maybe you understand now where I am coming from.

One significant error I have to admit though. I made a mistake when accusing most of the community to be like this. When I took a break and calmed down, I realised it was in fact just the usual 5 % of the community who repeat the same bullshit over and over until the impression occured to me that everyone thinks this way. Everytime I meet somebody new in TS I played with for quite a while and, I realise that the impression of that person is totally different than I would have expected, it is those moments that you know a break was needed.

Like you're the one to preach...

You call out melee players for shameless lobbying for their classes while you're doing the exact same thing all the time for your class.

If they are such assholes and you trully despise such behavior, why do you act the same, common sense would suggest you would act differently and be a bigger man not stoop to their level.

[XyNox]

Like you're the one to preach...

You call out melee players for shameless lobbying for their classes while you're doing the exact same thing all the time for your class.

If they are such assholes and you trully despise such behavior, why do you act the same, common sense would suggest you would act differently and be a bigger man not stoop to their level.

I totally agree. That is why I would be quite surpised if you would find a post of mine that lobbies in favour of ranged. The only thing I do is criticizing further, unjustified nerfs for ranged. And I have no problem to admit that I am doing this quite often and hard-pressing as this seems to be the way balancings works here.

That said, I have pointed out that proposed nerfs are unjustified and that certain nerfs should be reverted, but please, find me a post where I am actually lobbying in favour of ranged.

[Xant]

Ranged should be nerfed more.

[Bjord]

Leshma, just saying and all, but you said far worse things to me than (and me to you) than what you've said to the rest of the community, and we still value you as a member of our tiny clan. Everyone goes a bit crazy sometimes, some more than others (me and you being some of those), doesn't mean you didn't occasionally say something worth reading, nor that you haven't been way less schizophrenic since you returned. Again, just my opinion, but it takes a bigger person to apologize and state that he was wrong or overexaggerated than to leave and never return. Also, I'd take someone who occasionally was okay enough and was an asshole the rest of the time over a Rufioish guy who just is somewhat of an asshole.

As reasonable as your post was, I'm still unable to ignore the hypocrisy of you making said post. You are among one of the most abrasive people in this community. Naturally, I'm included, but you should really be careful with what you say, especially when putting yourself above Rufio.

He may whine a lot and make retarded QQ-threads, but he is far less abrasive. While as you, dear Shitsch, you are a Mean Girl.

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[Xant]

I seem to remember Zlisch being a lot more retarded a year or two ago, I had him classified in the same category as most of the Bandits, but he seems like a reasonable fellow nowadays. Though maybe he's just bribed me with all the upvotes...

[Ikarus]

too much text, people pointing fingers at each other and bad karma
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[Bjord]

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You realise you are finger pointing as well?

But off you go and good riddance, bundle of sticks.

I seem to remember Zlisch being a lot more retarded a year or two ago, I had him classified in the same category as most of the Bandits, but he seems like a reasonable fellow nowadays. Though maybe he's just bribed me with all the upvotes...

There is a notable difference, yes. I wouldn't class Zlisch as a retard (even though he throws that word around more than a prostitute does her leg in the Red Light District), far from it. He's just an insufferable cunt 80% of the time.

[darmaster]

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Thread is actually becoming more and more enjoyable every new page.

[Prpavi]

I totally agree. That is why I would be quite surpised if you would find a post of mine that lobbies in favour of ranged. The only thing I do is criticizing further, unjustified nerfs for ranged. And I have no problem to admit that I am doing this quite often and hard-pressing as this seems to be the way balancings works here.

That said, I have pointed out that proposed nerfs are unjustified and that certain nerfs should be reverted, but please, find me a post where I am actually lobbying in favour of ranged.

There I found a post