Re: Europeans they dont have feels

[Berserkadin]

Yes 9/11 is the biggest tragedy that has ever happened to mankind, since AMERICANS where killed, and not some lesser human beings.

/sarcasm

The fact that murricans get butthurt about the jokes just makes them more fun. It's been 12 years, get over it ffs and stop being the biggest fucking crypussy martyrs on the earth.

[[ptx]]

There may have been a lot of wars in Europe, but "Europe" does not "know" anything about tragedy and loss. Very few people of the current generations experienced any war first-hand. I find this whole discussion corny. It's like two kids going "my dad is tougher than your dad." Who the fuck cares how many wars there have been on your continent? It's just a dumb piece of land. Experienced it yourself? No? Then why mention it? Maybe 10,000 Americans were really influenced by 9/11 and that's not very much, considering they have a population of three hundred million; so it's just as dumb for them to wave their "tragedy" around as some sort of a victim-banner.

The world doesn't punish evil people or evil countries. There is no karma. Continents cannot think thoughts. Some countries have different national identities because they still want to pity themselves as a collective whole over what happened a couple generations ago, but only retards buy into that.

I experience the consequences of a war first-hand every day - as both the demographic and economic situation of Latvia. My family has been personally affected as well, people have died, but, i guess that doesn't affect me as much, since they died well before i was born.

[Xant]

I experience the consequences of a war first-hand every day - as both the demographic and economic situation of Latvia. My family has been personally affected as well, people have died, but, i guess that doesn't affect me as much, since they died well before i was born.

Those are more like tertiary effects of the war. Caused by it, sure. Sucks? Sure. But it makes no difference for you if it was caused by a war or if the economy and demographics had always been like that, or caused by a bad political move before you were born. Therefore I don't think you or your generation can really speak of "the tragedy of war." That chain of reasoning has to stop somewhere, otherwise Finns could still talk about how all their troubles were caused by the lack of water in Africa when the first humans were born there.

[Lars]

Just saw the videos( well just a small part), i don't understand  why do you care about the opinion/ get offended by the jokes of two ugly(at least one was fucking ugly) eyeglassed( is eyglassed a word?if not, it's a new word i created)40y old nerds.


 "A Lion does not concern himself with the opinions of a sheep" 

[Tibe]

Those are more like tertiary effects of the war. Caused by it, sure. Sucks? Sure. But it makes no difference for you if it was caused by a war or if the economy and demographics had always been like that, or caused by a bad political move before you were born. Therefore I don't think you or your generation can really speak of "the tragedy of war."

Depends how old is he. Baltics got completely free in 1993, in 1991 we had soviets on our doorstep with their tanks ready to violently take full control, by mere luck that did not happen. At that time people were scared of the worst case scenario. US has never had a war on their soil before. 9/11 is nothing.

[[ptx]]

Those are more like tertiary effects of the war. Caused by it, sure. Sucks? Sure. But it makes no difference for you if it was caused by a war or if the economy and demographics had always been like that, or caused by a bad political move before you were born. Therefore I don't think you or your generation can really speak of "the tragedy of war." That chain of reasoning has to stop somewhere, otherwise Finns could still talk about how all their troubles were caused by the lack of water in Africa when the first humans were born there.

Well, it's not a matter of a slightly worse situation - the occupation completely stripped away and ruined the economy of the country (which was pretty great before all that), whilst creating an enormous demographic problem, which continues to undermine this country.

Perhaps i can't speak of the tragedy of the war, but then again, 60-70 years ago - there is a good part of the population which can, which does make it relatable to 9/11. I don't see these people wailing about their actually personally experienced past tragedy, when someone makes a joke somewhere.

[Xant]

Well, it's not a matter of a slightly worse situation - the occupation completely stripped away and ruined the economy of the country (which was pretty great before all that), whilst creating an enormous demographic problem, which continues to undermine this country.

Perhaps i can't speak of the tragedy of the war, but then again, 60-70 years ago - there is a good part of the population which can, which does make it relatable to 9/11. I don't see these people wailing about their actually personally experienced past tragedy, when someone makes a joke somewhere.

Yeah, but my point is that what you're experiencing is a bad economic and demographic situation, not war. Your experiences are comparable to someone else somewhere else in the world in such a situation, but not to someone who's been through war.

I (obviously) don't think getting offended over 9/11 jokes makes sense, but there are some differences. The scale of the tragedy was much larger 70 years ago, but it has been 70 years. Time does heal wounds. Not to mention that most of the people who understood what was going on at the time are now 85-90 years old. Not a demographic known for their feisty protests.

[Kafein]

Depends how old is he. Baltics got completely free in 1993, in 1991 we had soviets on our doorstep with their tanks ready to violently take full control, by mere luck that did not happen. At that time people were scared of the worst case scenario. US has never had a war on their soil before. 9/11 is nothing.

The US south is still struggling economically and socially with the heritage of the secession war even today. Compared to the north and west anyway.

[Lars]

Depends how old is he. Baltics got completely free in 1993, in 1991 we had soviets on our doorstep with their tanks ready to violently take full control, by mere luck that did not happen. At that time people were scared of the worst case scenario. US has never had a war on their soil before. 9/11 is nothing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

[Gnjus]

Time does heal wounds.

Good, you finally realized. Now let it go.

[Tibe]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

I didnt consider this worth a mention really. That ended more then 130 years ago. I dont bring up over 100 year old events when talking about my nation or other EU nations aswell. And its not quite the same really in many ways.

The US south is still struggling economically and socially with the heritage of the secession war even today. Compared to the north and west anyway.

Economical and social struggle caused by wars is everywhere. Russia, Germany, Baltics.....etc

[KingBread]

I do remember war state in Poland. It was War teoretically people died, my familly was "interviewed" by secret communistic police bla bla bla. Even we are making jokes about it. In Poland we have sometimes this attitude that when you can laught and make jokes about bad times that happen to you then you are stronk and will survive. There is time for mourning but when it extend 1,5 year you should go and visit specialist. When its more than 10 years you might wanna go and call ambulance.

[Kafein]

I do remember war state in Poland. It was War teoretically people died, my familly was "interviewed" by secret communistic police bla bla bla. Even we are making jokes about it. In Poland we have sometimes this attitude that when you can laught and make jokes about bad times that happen to you then you are stronk and will survive. There is time for mourning but when it extend 1,5 year you should go and visit specialist. When its more than 10 years you might wanna go and call ambulance.

In Poland therapist vodka xoxoxoxo

Economical and social struggle from wars is everywhere. Russia, Germany, Baltics.....etc

Yeah and the US isn't as remote to that as it seems.

[Christo]

There is time for mourning but when it extend 1,5 year you should go and visit specialist. When its more than 10 years you might wanna go and call ambulance.

Nonsense.

[KingBread]

Nonsense.

It means that trauma from event overcome your natural resources to fight with it. PTSD is diagnosed after 6 months after traumatic influence stops. Actually Prudence Gourguechon says natural mouring should last 2 years max. So it vary on how steep symptoms are. But if you are still mourning and butthurt 10 years after traumatic event then it means you didn't copy well with it and could search for professionall help.

I'm not sure if it have something to do with topic here but it comes to my mind when i combined oversensitivity, mourning, 9/11 date.