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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« on: October 25, 2013, 12:05:45 am »
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http://forum.melee.org/general-off-topic/yogscast-and-their-jokes/msg881481/#msg881481

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well they are kind of hiding themselves from the wrath of hate by disabling the comments, so i would apply cowardice to them.  If they knew the comment was going to cause hatred, maybe they shouldnt have made it.
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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2013, 12:24:12 am »
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He locked the thread because we are not able to discuss. We should live with that, Xant. It cannot be wrong.
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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2013, 01:13:57 am »
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no please lets discuss it some more, i dont mind beating a dead horse some more.  Lets make another 5 pages about how im racist, and a a weak human being, almost as if everything that could be said wasnt said already in the 5 pages.
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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2013, 02:49:53 am »
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no please lets discuss it some more, i dont mind beating a dead horse some more.  Lets make another 5 pages about how im racist, and a a weak human being, almost as if everything that could be said wasnt said already in the 5 pages.

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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2013, 02:53:21 am »
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You're also terrible at cRPG and I'm livid whenever I see you at the bottom of the scoreboard.
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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2013, 03:10:55 am »
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Antiblitz, your a total racist!!

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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2013, 03:17:46 am »
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The previous thread was a nice read, although I didn't really know what to post in it.

Anyway Antiblitz, did someone close to you die in 9/11? Otherwise, I don't get it why you take it so personally.

So, someone insignificant on the internet, youtube did some joke about 9/11 or something? Wake up, it happened 12 years ago, you act like it's the 1st time people make jokes about misery. Look at WW2 jokes for an example.

Man up.

seriously, stop being so murican, sell some of your many guns and grab some eye-opening books maybe?
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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2013, 04:21:08 am »
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The previous thread was a nice read, although I didn't really know what to post in it.

Anyway Antiblitz, did someone close to you die in 9/11? Otherwise, I don't get it why you take it so personally.

So, someone insignificant on the internet, youtube did some joke about 9/11 or something? Wake up, it happened 12 years ago, you act like it's the 1st time people make jokes about misery. Look at WW2 jokes for an example.

Man up.

seriously, stop being so murican, sell some of your many guns and grab some eye-opening books maybe?

Please read this as neutrally as possible, im not trying to preach(well at one  point, yes maybe i was, but only after i felt as though, i was talking to a wall, or rather just Tiberius) or force my view upon you as much as just compare our opinions with discussion, i just wanted a honest conversation on the matter.  If you take time to just sit down and think about it, its rude to make comments towards someone like that, you could harm someone.  That was my view on it, i dont like to see people harmed, i myself found it offensive, though maybe not to the same degree as someone closer to the event might of felt.  Was it enough to make me unsubscribe? well no, actually i went on later that night and watched a few more videos lol.  And looking at it from a purely business aspect, i dont think its smart to throw out bad jokes at someones expense, this could harm sales, and the reputation, similar to why Russel Brand was dismissed from the event.  Making those comments when they werent wanted or when people were caught off guard by it was what i think is wrong, people dont watch the Yogscast videos because they were hoping to hear some 9/11 jokes, quite the contrary, i was hoping to see how badly they failed playing simple games like minecraft.

I tried to throw multiple analogies to show several sides to the story,as to get every angle to show that we all know the social boundaries, and we just dont cross them simply out of respect towards one another.  There was no attempt at racism, that was not the case whatsoever, it was to do nothing more than have multiple concepts of the matter in hopes that one of the many might apply towards you simply because you can relate to the situation i spoke of.

I tried to show cause as to why people might feel the same way i did over the matter, using things such as other past events, or geographical location, however i think this was also overlooked in the wake of slander.

I hoped that more discussion similar to what Tennenoth stated would come out of it, or even Angantyr, though instead i was met with simple one liners, one after another, people essentially just begging for approval from the community because they could not stand out and just form their own opinion with thought.  Im not asking to bring down the Man! or rather two brits, with this post, if that was the case, id be spamming mails to Kotaku, or other gaming media sources, instead i was asking for thoughtful opinions from other individuals, related happenings with personal story, or an opinion on how you viewed the joke.  Idk about you, but i feel like everyone always reads a post angrily, like as if every post made is done with inward angled eyebrows and a evil laugh, lol, idk why we do this, even my initial post was just a neutral statement, i just dont think it was taken that away.

To answer your post on a closer level Christo, i simply was just a few years away from starting the Fire Academy, all my training, all the people who spoke to us, all the extra levels of security measures, and random other crap i had to endure because of it left an everlasting taste in my mouth about the event.  Not to mention how this effected my family being in the same career paths as i now, i watched them go through the same things i would later endure myself.  This continued into other careers that furthered my patriotic views towards my country, and my willing to want to shield or not let others be harmed, its simply what i do for a living, i dont like seeing people harmed, i try and help them.  Maybe this psychologically was an opinion built by nothing more than propaganda and brainwashing from training, but throwing a joke about something like that, though i said before, was light in some respects, is a bad joke none the less, and was only on a derailment to cause harm from the minute it was spoken.  So why speak it?  btw Christo, i do read books as well, actually im currently just starting "The things they carried" by Tim O'Brien, my gf picked it up for me.  :)

Anyways the last probably two pages is me attempting to convince Kafein how those were analogies and not racist comments, idk what the hell happened there and trying to fight off the never wrong Xant, guys an animal, he never just simply stops, that shit would have lasted another 5 pages just from Xant alone, nothing personal Xant, but we all know its true.
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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2013, 04:40:32 am »
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Oh man, you are so cute.  I can only imagine how hard it must be in your life, fearing Youtube comments.  Every time you open a Youtube link, you dare not scroll down to the comments.  They could be dangerous.  Oh indeed, it takes untold bravery to look at the comments.  Only the courageous have the strength of will to do so, others are cowards.

Well while we are rehashing, hypocrite much yourself? Mockingly deriding the idea that locking comments is the pussy way out, yet feel the need to deride Blitz for locking his. Sad commentary on your psyche.

Oh yeah, couldn't leave a locked thread locked without being able to interject just one more time could you Mr. Ad Infinitum?  :lol:
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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2013, 05:05:34 am »
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No worries, the gun murrica comment was just made to poke you a bit and somewhat make you respond.
It's my title damnit, gotta live up to it sometimes

Mhm, I get it but you shouldn't care at all.
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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2013, 06:39:04 am »
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No worries, the gun murrica comment was just made to poke you a bit and somewhat make you respond.
It's my title damnit, gotta live up to it sometimes

Mhm, I get it but you shouldn't care at all.

right, but im not asking for you to tell me what my emotions should be, but what are yours.  I dont mind being poked at, its kind of what you sign up for when u enter the internet, though i dont think someone needs to actively chase people in to corners continually name calling for the sake of their enjoyment.(general statement)

Do you think its okay to make comments towards a group of people that find it offensive? especially ones that are your consumer.

Do you think from a business standpoint, this could harm a business? not necessarily just the yogscast, but any business for that matter.

Why do you have those views?

If people just shouldnt simply be offended, which we all know is impossible, why do we put up safeguards in society to make sure these things dont happen? and when they do, why are we punishing them for it?  even in crpg, this occurs.
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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2013, 06:57:32 am »
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It's not about what is okay and what isn't.

If people overreact about stuff like this, they shouldn't be on the internet at the first place.

This is nothing compared to the shitstorms you can find online.

What are my thoughts about this? Well think of it this way. They didn't go to the 9/11 memorial, vandalized it while wearing arabic clothing and chanting stuff? Now THAT is something you can be offended about with a reason.

People need to stop overreacting.

As in hurting a business, well I honestly don't care. You know what they say, right? Negative fame is best fame. (or just as good)

So even if it works out negatively for anybody, it brings lots of people to check what it's all about.
Aha. Controversy. That's the word I was looking for. It draws people like a magnet.

In an area where whoring subscribers and viewers is a major goal, it is perfect.
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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2013, 07:07:58 am »
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That's why argueing over the internet must be so bothersome for extensive gun owners. In real life disputes they at least have the theoretical option to go "fuck everything" and eradicate their adversary with superior firepower. A comforting thought.

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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2013, 07:13:44 am »
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Re: Europeans they dont have feels
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2013, 07:21:29 am »
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The reason 9/11 is so personal and offensive for many people is it was one of the first kinnd of terrorist attack on our country we were not expecting it and it did kill a good few Americans. While theirs no reason to go screaming over it, it is still a very touchy subject talk to a new yorker while it was new York that took the hit its just something we find rather offensive as a country silly as it may sound. Just thought I should add my useless two sence in