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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2013, 02:32:29 pm »
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I'm sure you are right in your own mind, Xant, but not everyone possesses your passion and energy for thorough argumentation. As you said, there is a clear inferential distance between you and everyone here and with good reason, it's an internet horses game forum.
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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2013, 02:40:33 pm »
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First of all, I don't think you understand what an inferential distance is, since that sentence makes no sense. Second, so what? Nobody's forcing anyone to continue a debate with me. The defense mechanisms come online after someone's already deep in an argument and notices they are losing badly and need an out without losing face.
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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #47 on: October 18, 2013, 02:55:11 pm »
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First of all, I don't think you understand what an inferential distance is, since that sentence makes no sense. Second, so what? Nobody's forcing anyone to continue a debate with me. The defense mechanisms come online after someone's already deep in an argument and notices they are losing badly and need an out without losing face.

Inferential distance refers to the difference between two people's background knowledge, does it not?

Secondly, give an example of when someone has entered in a deep argument with you and ejected half-way. I have no recollection of doing that with you, though. You would know this, because it was in IRC and I even conceded defeat. :wink:

Just face it, Xant, you put too much demand on people's attention and then get snappy when they can't be bothered any more. Have some humility.
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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2013, 03:01:54 pm »
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Inferential distance refers to the difference between two people's background knowledge, does it not?

Secondly, give an example of when someone has entered in a deep argument with you and ejected half-way. I have no recollection of doing that with you, though. You would know this, because it was in IRC and I even conceded defeat. :wink:

Just face it, Xant, you put too much demand on people's attention and then get snappy when they can't be bothered any more. Have some humility.
And this being a video game forum is a good reason for the difference in background knowledge how?

Rumblood's done it, that's why he's still butthurt.

How am I "demanding" anyone's attention, again?
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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2013, 03:06:57 pm »
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Like now, for example, you are questioning me about various uninteresting things (in my opinion).

I just can't be bothered to refute you, and thus I am okay with letting you think whatever you want to conclude from my lack of care.
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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2013, 03:14:55 pm »
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You can't refute me, but that's beyond the point. You're free to not answer, nobody's holding a gun to your head, but obviously it's retarded to make claims and then not back them up. Anyone can do that. In fact, you do that all the time: can't think of anyone who does it more often. I think if you're being honest with yourself, you're just afraid of not being intelligent enough to do it so you make up excuses both to yourself and to others, seeing as you're very concerned about what others think of you.

Anyone who's not borderline autistic can see the irrationality of your excuses.

"You're a communist."
"How's that?"
"Uh, yeah, I could tell you why, but I'm like, not interested. Even though I cared enough to call you one. But I've totally lost interest now."

If you are not interested in conversation, what is the point of posting in the first place? Unless you have a severe case of narcissism and just enjoy the look of your own posts, that doesn't make sense either.
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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2013, 03:49:12 pm »
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Or maybe I'm not always rational and should know better than getting caught up in long-winded arguments with you.
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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #52 on: October 18, 2013, 03:53:32 pm »
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Then get rational, bitch.
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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #53 on: October 18, 2013, 04:03:27 pm »
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I will consult my 8-ball.
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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #54 on: October 18, 2013, 05:53:32 pm »
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I would say get a room right now if I was ignorant of the fact that to the best of humanity's knowledge a single person is always in a single room at a time.

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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #55 on: October 18, 2013, 05:59:21 pm »
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Rumblood's done it, that's why he's still butthurt.

Got snappy how? Butthurt? Mischaracterize much?

For my characterization however, you are still at it aren't you?

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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2013, 06:26:54 pm »
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Nobody said you got snappy. Reading comprehension is harder than it sounds, isn't it?
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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #57 on: October 18, 2013, 07:56:14 pm »
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[...]obviously it's retarded to make claims and then not back them up. Anyone can do that. In fact, you do that all the time: can't think of anyone who does it more often. [...]
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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2013, 11:44:08 pm »
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Nobody said you got snappy. Reading comprehension is harder than it sounds, isn't it?

You must have been referring to getting snappy, because I sure as hell didn't eject in the argument halfway. In fact, the only way that you could prove your point is to stop responding, which you continue to prove that you are inherently incapable of doing.
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Re: does the means justify the end?
« Reply #59 on: October 19, 2013, 01:29:57 am »
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My end
It justifies my means
All I ever do is delay
My every attempt to evade
The end of the road and my end
It justifies my means
All I ever do is delay
My every attempt to evade
THE END OF THE ROAD!