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Please specify how item classes should be changed: (v0.223)

Buff horses
192 (7%)
Buff armor
162 (5.9%)
Buff one handed weapons
195 (7.1%)
Buff two handed weapons
140 (5.1%)
Buff polearms
98 (3.6%)
Buff shield
120 (4.4%)
Buff thrown
264 (9.6%)
Buff bow
151 (5.5%)
Buff crossbow
85 (3.1%)
Nerf horses
144 (5.2%)
Nerf armor
80 (2.9%)
Nerf one handed weapons
79 (2.9%)
Nerf two handed weapons
180 (6.5%)
Nerf polearms
209 (7.6%)
Nerf shield
117 (4.2%)
Nerf thrown
89 (3.2%)
Nerf bow
153 (5.5%)
Nerf crossbow
174 (6.3%)
Leave everything as is. (overrides all other options)
125 (4.5%)

Total Members Voted: 973

Voting closed: May 31, 2011, 02:13:07 pm

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Offline Bulzur

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #240 on: May 21, 2011, 09:26:49 pm »
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its speed bonus that need nerf

Actually, this could turn out to be agreat idea.
This way, the real damage output will come from PD and wpf rather than lolturn and such.
You don't have to remove it completely (of course not), but lowering it a bit wouldn't hurt.
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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #241 on: May 21, 2011, 09:50:13 pm »
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Actually, this could turn out to be agreat idea.
This way, the real damage output will come from PD and wpf rather than lolturn and such.
You don't have to remove it completely (of course not), but lowering it a bit wouldn't hurt.

Why would you remove human impact from the game? O.o

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #242 on: May 21, 2011, 09:53:43 pm »
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But dont forget that footsolders have a speedbonus around 30% as well.

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #243 on: May 21, 2011, 10:10:36 pm »
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Buff 2h and nerf everything else  :twisted:
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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #244 on: May 22, 2011, 06:24:45 am »
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cavalry is supposed to counter archers, not foot infantry :/

No. Shielders are archer's counter, not cav.
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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #245 on: May 22, 2011, 08:03:25 am »
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The secret about light cav is that given ANY distance between them and an aware opponent, they are going to lose by either dying, or being unable to kill their opponent. It's not hard to win against light cav, you just need to not shuffle around like a caveman.

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #246 on: May 22, 2011, 12:47:32 pm »
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No. Shielders are archer's counter, not cav.
Cavalry are supposed to counter the archers by flanking, but shielders can counter by going head-on. It's simple medieval tactics. :wink:

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #247 on: May 22, 2011, 04:04:43 pm »
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Why would you remove human impact from the game? O.o

I want a game that I play, not a game that plays itself.

agreed

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #248 on: May 22, 2011, 10:53:46 pm »
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I'm pleased with these results :

Buff throwing :
-ok, it's dead as it is now anyway.
Nerf polearms :
-yes, too fast, too much range, too much damage, something needs to be done for the GLA, LHB, poleaxes and other 4 attacks polearms. Pike-like weapons are fine imo. Maybe they need a little damage buff.
Buff 1h :
-why not, depends on what 1h are buffed.
Buff horses :
- yes if the buff is in armor, charge and/or HP. And maybe a size increase for some horses that have weird bump hitboxes.

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #249 on: May 22, 2011, 10:56:47 pm »
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I'm pleased with these results :

Buff throwing :
-ok, it's dead as it is now anyway.
Nerf polearms :
-yes, too fast, too much range, too much damage, something needs to be done for the GLA, LHB, poleaxes and other 4 attacks polearms. Pike-like weapons are fine imo. Maybe they need a little damage buff.
Buff 1h :
-why not, depends on what 1h are buffed.
Buff horses :
- yes if the buff is in armor, charge and/or HP. And maybe a size increase for some horses that have weird bump hitboxes.

+1 agreed, with all of this (i voted only nerf polearm, but the rest is true).

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #250 on: May 22, 2011, 10:58:33 pm »
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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #251 on: May 22, 2011, 11:31:20 pm »
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-yes, too fast, too much range, too much damage, something needs to be done for the GLA,

The GLA has already been nerfed (twice!) in a row, other poles are superior to it now (including the cheaper version, Long War Axe).
Should remove polestun and it would all be ok, to bad its hardcoded.

And make armor actually worth it.
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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #252 on: May 22, 2011, 11:54:17 pm »
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ye, dont make polearms even slower, it wont effect the stunning

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #253 on: May 23, 2011, 12:09:35 am »
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I'm pleased with these results :

Buff throwing :
-ok, it's dead as it is now anyway.
Nerf polearms :
-yes, too fast, too much range, too much damage, something needs to be done for the GLA, LHB, poleaxes and other 4 attacks polearms. Pike-like weapons are fine imo. Maybe they need a little damage buff.
Buff 1h :
-why not, depends on what 1h are buffed.
Buff horses :
- yes if the buff is in armor, charge and/or HP. And maybe a size increase for some horses that have weird bump hitboxes.

Agree with everything except the buff horses. I wouldn't mind a fix for them, extra armor charge and/or hp, AND some maneuver and speed reduction.
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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #254 on: May 23, 2011, 03:14:44 am »
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-Buff Horses - Horse head shot is not neceseary i think. Also cheap horses like Rouncey or Courser can be easily killed with one shot (not headshot) from a crossbow - its not fair. I think also that heavily armored horses are a little too slow. It's like riding a tortoise.

-Buff armor - Heavy armor is usseles. It gives too little protection. I can get killed wearing millanese plate with one fucking thrust from 2h (when i am mounted). Its not fair because sometimes i need to hit people more than once with MW heavy lance riding at full speed. Heavy cavalry in most cases is usseles too, because heavy armor does not give any advantage.
I like its expensive but not worth the effort to use it.

-Nerf Twohanders - I can be killed with one thrust, as i said above, and sometimes (maybe it is illusion caused by ping, I dont know) outranged by 2h thrust if i have Heavy Lance.

And one more. Why my horse stops being hit from the side?! I understood in the chest but not in the stomach or ass...

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