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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #75 on: October 14, 2013, 01:13:50 am »
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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #76 on: October 14, 2013, 01:23:05 am »
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wuts dis Namo thing about?Im in Astralis and i dont know about it...
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1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #77 on: October 14, 2013, 04:43:42 am »
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thats a lot of ifs.

Not really, most good duelers and melee have high WPF and fast weapons.
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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #78 on: October 14, 2013, 05:57:02 am »
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In my experience, they don't even need to be particularly fast. Poke at a mauler or shielder with a pike or long spear and have him block it anywhere less than full extension and he can almost always just walk in and get a free hit on you. Even if you aren't still stunned you likely won't be able to do anything to fight him off if he's focused.

The stun from hitting an object is always long, with my dear pike it literally takes like 1.5 second before you can block again. Hitting an object with that weapon is a dead sentence if anyone is attacking you.

I hate when that happens. Accidentally go through a guy and hit the wall or the ground or something and you're done for. It's good that it punishes thrusting wildly but can really screw you.

Another thing to talk about when discussing the weird stabs and animations, and that's how you can go straight through a person (friendly or enemy) or even object, about 1/4 - 1/3 of the way through the animation with a pike or long spear, because of how long it takes for the actual hitbox to activate. Having it do full damage at the end of the thrust doesn't make any sense, so when should it hit? And why doesn't it already?

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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #79 on: October 14, 2013, 06:09:10 am »
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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #80 on: October 14, 2013, 06:39:35 am »
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The funny thing is that when someone complained about polearms stab he always heard: learn 2 downblock. Though I do agree to some extent that 1h stab is kind of OP (not in comaparison to 2h or pole stab but to other attacks), but definitely not gamebreaking. I don't see hords of 1h stabers toping the scoreboard. most of shielders still use swing oriented weapons. But whatever, maybe they will buff my niuweidao :P

and i like how its only the 1 handers that support this notion of yours :)
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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #81 on: October 14, 2013, 06:46:30 am »
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and i like how its only the 1 handers that support this notion of yours :)
And I like how the level 35 2h greatsworder is the one crying nerf polearm and 1h stabs!
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #82 on: October 14, 2013, 07:10:32 am »
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i indeed am, since my polearmer alt is higher gen than my main, and my stf is a 1hander. its ok thow zlisch you biased manchild

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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #83 on: October 14, 2013, 07:36:19 am »
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i indeed am, since my polearmer alt is higher gen than my main, and my stf is a 1hander. its ok thow zlisch you biased manchild

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Just because you play every class doesn't mean you're not a biased fuck, the only characters I've ever retired were horsethrowers, a 2h archer hybrid who spent level 30 with a 2h and no bow, and a 2h character, if retirements meant shit I'd be a 2h enthusiast.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #84 on: October 14, 2013, 07:42:19 am »
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yet you think 2handed stabs are more broken than 1 handed stabs atm,  witch kindoff says alot about your bias  :lol:
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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #85 on: October 14, 2013, 08:48:26 am »
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yet you think 2handed stabs are more broken than 1 handed stabs atm,  witch kindoff says alot about your bias  :lol:
I think that all things (stats included) considered, they're about equally broken, also, way to miss my point completely.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #86 on: October 14, 2013, 02:17:01 pm »
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I hate to keep ranting about it, but hell I'll join the QQ party and say it out loud again, 1h thrust was shit before ( yet you could compensate by having a shield and using the spammy face-bashing left swing) and now it's a joke. Hell, despite 2h and pole being my favorite classes I use my main with a +0 Espada Eslavona to maximise my chances of getting valour on battle.

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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #87 on: October 14, 2013, 06:49:09 pm »
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Please move to chamber of tears.

Oh, finally 1h has more than 1 good attack direction.

It's not OP, its just usable now.

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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #88 on: October 14, 2013, 09:37:50 pm »
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high end 1 handers have more pierce than high end 2 handers, enough said
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Re: 1h stab
« Reply #89 on: October 14, 2013, 09:45:38 pm »
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Because the greatswords are like spathions with decent swing and stab damage. There is no niche for stab-oriented 2hs with terrible swings.