Author Topic: 1h stab  (Read 15037 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Sauce

  • Duke
  • *******
  • Renown: 597
  • Infamy: 83
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: The Remnants
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2013, 07:07:48 pm »
0
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
« Last Edit: April 11, 2014, 10:48:26 pm by Sauce »

Offline San

  • Developer
  • ******
  • Renown: 1456
  • Infamy: 143
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • 1/Sympathy = Divide By Zero
    • View Profile
    • My youtube Brawl videos
  • Faction: Chaos
  • Game nicks: San_of_Chaos
  • IRC nick: San
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2013, 07:10:57 pm »
0
Compared to being 24/15 for 2+ years. Been 18/27 for 1 week. Same applies from my personal experience with both.

Offline DaveUKR

  • Supreme Overlord
  • *******
  • Renown: 1456
  • Infamy: 242
  • cRPG Player
  • Small rain lays great dust
    • View Profile
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2013, 07:24:37 pm »
+5
let's say you're facing 2 opponents, the main one you're engaging to the front and a guy with a 1h/shield to the side

if you try to do a switch attack on to the guy to the side, if he is using the stab it is impossible, unless you also use the stab, because the stab is so much faster even than a leftswing

not just for 1h mind, but the instant c-rpg stab is making it pretty darned impossible to fight 1v2 against anyone using stabs

I personally think they should just revert the stabs to how they were in native, but compensate for the difficulty in hitting them by slightly buffing their damage or something similar

You're using a very low armour, so instastab is possible. While wearing decent armour it's only possible when the attacker either has a huge speed bonus or a huge amount of PS and hits your head. Otherwise he will glance even with the new stab. The only thing that is difficult for me is rondel dagger, sometimes I fail to its stab somehow.

Offline Fartface

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 476
  • Infamy: 288
  • cRPG Player
  • Centurii
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Deathcore,Djentcore,Deathmetal,Brutal,Slam
  • Game nicks: Growling,Grunting,Screaming,Squeeling
  • IRC nick: Fuck I love it.
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2013, 08:14:23 pm »
+1
Corsair always wears close to no armour.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Corsair831

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1168
  • Infamy: 616
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2013, 08:19:03 pm »
+5
even when i wear high armour, the 1h stab is extremely hard to block; as an example i have been playing with jackiechan when he has been purposely abusing the long espada eslavona stab as much as possible, and you may disagree, but it seems a lot faster, higher damaging and generally more effective than even a spear support in a 2v1; not to mention a lot longer range (it maintains it's high damage accross the stab, from closest point to furthest), than it really should be.

i'd like to reiterate, i don't just disapprove of 1h instant stab, i don't like the instant stab mechanic in general; i thought crpg was better when stabs were not instant

regards, Corsair
I 10/10'd cRPG on moddb.com!

Do your bit for our community and write a 10/10 review for cRPG on http://www.moddb.com/mods/crpg !

Offline Sauce

  • Duke
  • *******
  • Renown: 597
  • Infamy: 83
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: The Remnants
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2013, 08:19:57 pm »
+2
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
« Last Edit: April 11, 2014, 10:48:07 pm by Sauce »

Offline DaveUKR

  • Supreme Overlord
  • *******
  • Renown: 1456
  • Infamy: 242
  • cRPG Player
  • Small rain lays great dust
    • View Profile
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2013, 08:24:07 pm »
+2
even when i wear high armour, the 1h stab is extremely hard to block; as an example i have been playing with jackiechan when he has been purposely abusing the long espada eslavona stab as much as possible, and you may disagree, but it seems a lot faster, higher damaging and generally more effective than even a spear support in a 2v1; not to mention a lot longer range (it maintains it's high damage accross the stab, from closest point to furthest), than it really should be.

i'd like to reiterate, i don't just disapprove of 1h instant stab, i don't like the instant stab mechanic in general; i thought crpg was better when stabs were not instant

regards, Corsair

It's something you get used to. First time when I failed against new stabs I was mad as hell but then I got used to them and they stopped looking that OP to me. Rondel dagger is stupid though.

Offline San

  • Developer
  • ******
  • Renown: 1456
  • Infamy: 143
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • 1/Sympathy = Divide By Zero
    • View Profile
    • My youtube Brawl videos
  • Faction: Chaos
  • Game nicks: San_of_Chaos
  • IRC nick: San
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2013, 09:17:58 pm »
+2
Also, people that have never played any other weapon class for 2+ years might be considered biased and not see all the different angles here.
I've played every class except for 2h and bows.

Offline Tindel

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 333
  • Infamy: 238
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Mercenaries
  • Game nicks: Merc_Tindel
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2013, 09:26:35 pm »
-1
I find 1h stab to be in line with the other stabs, they are all equally annoying to face when used right.

Offline Xant

  • Finnish Pony
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1552
  • Infamy: 803
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2013, 09:31:09 pm »
+2
The stab still has problems. At times it's too good, at times it bounces for seemingly no reason. Sometimes you can face-stab someone instantly, sometimes a perfectly good stab bounces. Much confuse, very irritate.
Meaning lies as much
in the mind of the reader
as in the Haiku.

Offline Bjord

  • Amateur heretic
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1328
  • Infamy: 1109
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • salty turks
    • View Profile
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2013, 09:34:50 pm »
-2
Very point.
When you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back.

Offline Falka

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1257
  • Infamy: 423
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Bishop A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2013, 09:39:59 pm »
+4
regards, Corsair

Without this line I wouldnt know it was you, Corsair!  :shock:

Idlewild
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Xant

  • Finnish Pony
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1552
  • Infamy: 803
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2013, 09:42:21 pm »
+1
Without this line I wouldnt know it was you, Corsair!  :shock:

Idlewild
I've always wondered what makes people sign with their names when it says the name of the poster on the left.

Regards,

Idlewind

Xant

Christo

Ptx
Meaning lies as much
in the mind of the reader
as in the Haiku.

Offline Canary

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 826
  • Infamy: 202
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Faction: CHAOS
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2013, 10:34:30 pm »
0
The 1h stab sweetspot was, I think, supposed to be tweaked some more after its performance could be gauged on live servers. The person who did the sweetspot tweaking has been missing for over a month, though.

Offline Froto_the_Loc

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 252
  • Infamy: 94
  • cRPG Player Sir White Pawn
  • CRaPGame
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Locia
  • Game nicks: Froto_the_loc
Re: 1h stab
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2013, 11:18:36 pm »
-1
Remember when pikes were wonk?
Yeah, just block down.
Hooray for customization and hybridization!
Down with monotonous pure classes!