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suggestion about bows
« on: May 13, 2011, 02:20:13 pm »
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Last patch add new bow (Jumi) but replace old-time warbow.

Well. From historical point of view Jumi was a good weapon.
Yes, it was main samurai weapon, and we all hate\love weaboo characters very much.
But Jumi was designed not only for foot archers, but for horse archers too.
And warbow\longbow was alternative weapons for dedicated foot archers.

Please, mates, bring back our Warbow. Give us chance to choose between some more than 7 bows.
Add Jumi as completely new bow. Make weaboo archers happy.
Also, it would be great, if HA can use Jumi too. Just to make another option for them.


Just for example some stats

Jumi
weight: 2
accuracy: 94
difficulty: 5
speed rating: 56
missile speed: 52
thrust damage: 22 pierce
slots: 2
Can use on horseback

or this

Jumi
weight: 2
accuracy: 95
difficulty: 6
speed rating: 54
missile speed: 54
thrust damage: 23 pierce
slots: 2
Can use on horseback

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Re: suggestion about bows
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2011, 07:55:08 pm »
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Last patch add new bow (Jumi) but replace old-time warbow.

Well. From historical point of view Jumi was a good weapon.
Yes, it was main samurai weapon, and we all hate\love weaboo characters very much.
But Jumi was designed not only for foot archers, but for horse archers too.
And warbow\longbow was alternative weapons for dedicated foot archers.

Please, mates, bring back our Warbow. Give us chance to choose between some more than 7 bows.
Add Jumi as completely new bow. Make weaboo archers happy.
Also, it would be great, if HA can use Jumi too. Just to make another option for them.


Just for example some stats

Jumi
weight: 2
accuracy: 94
difficulty: 5
speed rating: 56
missile speed: 52
thrust damage: 22 pierce
slots: 2
Can use on horseback

or this

Jumi
weight: 2
accuracy: 95
difficulty: 6
speed rating: 54
missile speed: 54
thrust damage: 23 pierce
slots: 2
Can use on horseback

Although it would be cool for realism, more content, historical accuracy etc... It would be a balance murder. HA allready can attack at range and flee faster than footmen, and that is clearly broken  enough (equal skill level makes the HA unkillable). Any further buff would be illogical.

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Re: suggestion about bows
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2011, 04:26:55 am »
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Don't touch the warbow to make a 'historical accuracy' poster happy  :rolleyes:
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Re: suggestion about bows
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2011, 05:55:26 am »
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Don't touch the warbow to make a 'historical accuracy' poster happy  :rolleyes:

Warbow really isn't like the jumi though. I say change warbow back to warbow and make a short bow-like jumi. That way, everyone is happy
So with PT >10 stones become simple too effective
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Re: suggestion about bows
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2011, 08:15:00 am »
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yumi doesnt have anywhere in the ballpark penetrating power of a longbow.  Suggesting it does pierce is an insult.

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Re: suggestion about bows
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2011, 11:15:40 am »
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Digglez
In real life arrows from Jumi and Longbow have same projectile speed, but arrows for Jumi longer and have more weight.
Physics can be very insulting mate.

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Warbow really isn't like the jumi though. I say change warbow back to warbow and make a short bow-like jumi. That way, everyone is happy
Jumi really isn't like the short bow though. There is place for warbow and for Jumi too. In balance terms Jumi can take place between Strongbow and Longbow.

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Re: suggestion about bows
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2011, 07:43:02 pm »
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Warbow really isn't like the jumi though. I say change warbow back to warbow and make a short bow-like jumi. That way, everyone is happy

Quit calling to nerf the warbow, geezus...
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Re: suggestion about bows
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2011, 07:56:12 pm »
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Digglez
In real life arrows from Jumi and Longbow have same projectile speed, but arrows for Jumi longer and have more weight.
Physics can be very insulting mate.

Uh no, show me a creditable source that even lists the pull force of a yumi, it aint listed anywhere.  You think little midgets asians are capable of pulling the same force that people 6in-1ft taller could pull?  No.  Aint physics a bitch

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Re: suggestion about bows
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2011, 08:38:48 am »
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Funny story My grandad was in the 2nd world war fighting the japanese, on the way over all the vets were telling him dont worry they are tiny people and you can fight off 3 at a time, well his first patrol they were ambushed and he says "this japanese guy jumps out of a bush and runs at me he was bloody 7 foot tall so I stabbed him with a bayonette " cracks me up everytime he tells me that one