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Is nothing something?
« on: October 06, 2013, 03:49:31 pm »
The answer is no.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2013, 08:41:18 pm by Kalam »
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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2013, 03:50:16 pm »
less is more
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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2013, 04:13:57 pm »
Nothing is something because if something is nothing while nothing is not something, then something may be nothing but on the other hand, if its really nothing but not something, it cannot be nothing = something.
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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2013, 04:26:37 pm »
i consider myself a philosopher too

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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2013, 04:34:51 pm »
What's the timeframe?
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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2013, 04:37:49 pm »
Is something nothing?

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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2013, 04:38:54 pm »
z(r)=sqrt(R3 / 2M) [sqrt(1 - (1 - (2M / R)))] + sqrt(8M (r - 2M)) - sqrt(8m (R - 2M)) for r >= R
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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2013, 05:02:41 pm »
lol?
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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2013, 05:41:48 pm »
Then explain how the 'Big Bang' came about.

If there was nothing before the Big Bang as scientists say then the Big Bang could not have happened. Therefore there something=nothing and nothing=something

Within a state of nothingness there is always something, there can never be nothing there always has to be something.

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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2013, 05:54:44 pm »
There is no "before" the Big Bang.
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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2013, 06:01:03 pm »
There is no "before" the Big Bang.

There had to have been something otherwise it would not have happened.

You cannot suddenly have creation without something causing it. Therefore there was a before but we just don't what it was. Scientists call it 'nothing' but that nothing was something.

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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2013, 06:13:03 pm »
There had to have been something otherwise it would not have happened.

You cannot suddenly have creation without something causing it. Therefore there was a before but we just don't what it was. Scientists call it 'nothing' but that nothing was something.

There was never a pre-existing emptiness into which our universe exploded.  There is just this timeless mathematical object, time existing within it; and the object has a natural boundary at the Big Bang.  You cannot ask "When did this mathematical object come into existence?" because there is no t outside it.
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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2013, 06:17:16 pm »
There was never a pre-existing emptiness into which our universe exploded.  There is just this timeless mathematical object, time existing within it; and the object has a natural boundary at the Big Bang.  You cannot ask "When did this mathematical object come into existence?" because there is no t outside it.

If time existed within it then it's not nothingness. Time is something therefore this nothingess or timeless mathematical object still occupied your state of emptiness

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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2013, 06:17:59 pm »
If time existed within it then it's not nothingness. Time is something therefore this nothingess or timeless mathematical object still occupied your state of emptiness
Yes, after the Big Bang.
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Re: Is nothing something?
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2013, 06:52:24 pm »
The Big Donkey farted and that was the Big Bang.
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