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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2013, 07:18:57 pm »
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Cool stuff. I wonder how far its built-in battery could get it though.

Battery? Doesn't the noise mean it has an internal combustion engine?
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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2013, 07:20:22 pm »
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Battery? Doesn't the noise mean it has an internal combustion engine?

Come on Zagibu. Cut me a slack. Just pray that I achieved to go that technical.

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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2013, 07:37:19 pm »
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I...what? Sorry, but I...what?
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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2013, 11:12:14 pm »
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Battery? Doesn't the noise mean it has an internal combustion engine?

Well if we ever get off our asses and mine enough helium 3 to make it cheap and plentiful enough for the researchers who are working on the fusion reactor the size of a basketball without all the nasty radiation and very little waste to finish their work, these things will be quiet enough that breathing heavy may be louder.
The U.S. skipping the moon, ceding it to China and Japan, and going on to asteroids and Mars instead will go down as one of the biggest economic boondoggles of the past few centuries. Our oil companies have the revenue to fund an endeavor themselves, but are so near sighted and shareholder beholden that they are too stupid to look to future goals and revenues. And it isn't just them. Apple is expected to cross $170 billion in cash reserves this year. The cost for a manned mission to the moon and back again? Less than $1 billion and with a real effort, the cost could come down significantly. The thing is, you don't even have to do a bunch of flying back and forth. Set up an unmanned mining operation that gathers raw material, puts them into containers, strap them onto a rail and accelerate them off the moon and into the Pacific ocean for pickup and processing on Earth. You only need to send someone there for container resupply and maintenance, and it is likely that the containers themselves could be manufactured on the moon itself.

But I digress....killer robots are coming soon to planet Earth!
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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2013, 12:24:34 am »
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Reminds me of Drone technology.


Those damn things use prop engines and are SO DAMN LOUD.

Jesus.

The drones over here are silent. Sometimes they follow me when I'm driving to work, and I don't notice them until I look up.

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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2013, 01:23:28 am »
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How much does it cost? How much would it cost in a fully armed and functional version? How much does a molotov coctail that can damage all its electronics beyond repair cost?
Not saying this isn't cool, but I don't think in a war it's terribly useful (*). Perhaps if you are really sparing no expense to keep your own soldiers alive. If the enemy has an actual chance to win the war this would be pretty stupid, though. But then occupying terrorist with blowing up some 100k robots every now and then might still be better than leaving them the time to blow up targets in your own country.

(*) For special applications it maybe is, but not as a replacement for soldiers.
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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2013, 02:02:20 am »
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Well if we ever get off our asses and mine enough helium 3 to make it cheap and plentiful enough for the researchers who are working on the fusion reactor the size of a basketball without all the nasty radiation and very little waste to finish their work, these things will be quiet enough that breathing heavy may be louder.
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But I digress....killer robots are coming soon to planet Earth!


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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2013, 02:17:54 am »
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iron man vs terminator, cant wait.
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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2013, 04:00:35 am »
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How much does it cost? How much would it cost in a fully armed and functional version? How much does a molotov coctail that can damage all its electronics beyond repair cost?
Not saying this isn't cool, but I don't think in a war it's terribly useful (*). Perhaps if you are really sparing no expense to keep your own soldiers alive. If the enemy has an actual chance to win the war this would be pretty stupid, though. But then occupying terrorist with blowing up some 100k robots every now and then might still be better than leaving them the time to blow up targets in your own country.

(*) For special applications it maybe is, but not as a replacement for soldiers.

The IBM 650 computer from the 1950's would cost you $4 million in today's dollars, and yet here you are sending us messages on a PC today @ 1/8000th's of the cost and suffice to say what you have is millions or billions of times faster and has a similar increase in memory (I cant be arsed to do the math)
As for hardening the equipment against attack, it will increase the cost, but isn't a technical challenge.
Before I kick off to the next world, we will have Congress dealing with legislation that deals with the use of these in the streets for law enforcement and whether or not AI will be allowed limited autonomous functions.
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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2013, 06:06:52 am »
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The drones over here are silent. Sometimes they follow me when I'm driving to work, and I don't notice them until I look up.

Yeah but maybe these are louder because they can carry payloads like rocket pods mounted under their wings, and that's they use prop engines? No idea
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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2013, 01:49:57 pm »
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Back on topic, why on earth would one want to have a 4 legged robot instead of you know, wheels ? Push this thing out of balance and voila, terminator vanquished.

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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2013, 01:54:12 pm »
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This is causing way more discussion than it warrants. The only thing it's close to being capable of doing is the most elementary going from A to B tasks.

As for "killer robot" applications of this... they are as far away as they've always been. Building a robot that moves (badly) is the very easiest part.
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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2013, 01:56:49 pm »
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Killer applications already become possible with movement. Just strap a bomb to it, or a canister of some toxic gas. Beware the robotic plague dogs.
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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2013, 02:00:01 pm »
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Yes, but that's not what people are so excited/worried about. Strapping a bomb to something that can move has already been possible for.. as long as bombs have existed.
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Re: Killer robot
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2013, 02:01:03 pm »
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I don't really believe in a wide application of armed ground drones in the near future. Air and sea navigation is ridiculously much easier from and AI point of view. Even getting 4 legged movement right is an incredible feat, and it can't even turn well yet.

Building a robot that moves (badly) is the very easiest part.

I really don't think so. Image recognition is quite easy, and from there target acquisition shouldn't be a big problem. The problem almost reduces to what you can mount on your moving platform.