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[Zomg]

Have you ever use P220 Compact?

[AntiBlitz]

http://news.sky.com/story/1153645/pro-gun-campaign-on-sandy-hook-anniversary

just wtf really

i understand what they are trying to achieve here, but i think the execution is poor lol.

Have you ever use P220 Compact?

i have not actually, though i know of them and i know how they fire, why whats up?  gotta question bout it?

[Clockworkkiller]

Gun bans wouldn't have stopped sandy, Lanza shot up the school because of MENTAL issues. Guns aren't the probelm, lack of mental health care is

[Butan]

Gun bans wouldn't have stopped sandy, Lanza shot up the school because of MENTAL issues. Guns aren't the probelm, lack of mental health care is

More like lack of mental stability in human is.
And there is only one cure for stopping being a human 

[Osiris]

Gun bans wouldn't have stopped sandy, Lanza shot up the school because of MENTAL issues. Guns aren't the probelm, lack of mental health care is

maybe but in most other countries mental guys dont shoot up schools because they cant get guns or dont know the underground people to get them

[Xant]

Gun bans wouldn't have stopped sandy, Lanza shot up the school because of MENTAL issues. Guns aren't the probelm, lack of mental health care is

Yeah, but the ban of gun bans could have stopped Sandy.

[zagibu]

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[Xant]

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[Zomg]

i understand what they are trying to achieve here, but i think the execution is poor lol.

i have not actually, though i know of them and i know how they fire, why whats up?  gotta question bout it?

Wanted to know their design, how they react to their users, accuracy, et cetera.

[AntiBlitz]

Wanted to know their design, how they react to their users, accuracy, et cetera.

it wont come with a safety, the hammer is the safety, most people dont understand why guns dont have safeties, but if you are drawing a gun, all you need is one other thing to have to do before you fire.  With a compact your going to have around an 1inch shorter barrel, which means the accuracy will suffer at ranges, but that wouldnt be an issue considering if it is used for self defense, most problems occur very closely.  I said in a previous post that firearms with hammers like the p220 will create a very heavy trigger pull on your first shot, normally around 12lbs, which is significant considering the rest would be around 3-6lbs.  This means your first shot will more than likely be horrible,  id really recommend a firearm without a double action, it will truly be the best firearm wanting to train, with the safety factor aside.  If you have children or people who arent gun savvy around the house, having the double action of the p220 allows that safety factor of making them have to pull that trigger hard before it will go off, as its drawing that whole hammer. 

I've really heard nothing but praise from Sig Sauer firearms, they are world renowned and the p220 is used by police agencies around the world.  As for other the ergonomics of the grip, or the accuracy, or the action feedback i really cant comment on it too much as ive never fired it, only heard of it being spoken about at the range by other owners.

On a side note,  If you lived near me, which i dont think you do, i would provide you firing lessons or help you learn to shoot.  I'd rather train someone with right way then allow someone to self train and learn incorrectly.

[Zomg]

I am hoping to get myself some sort of training and a license to carry. Though not sure when or how, as it is kind of expensive and need some extensive reasoning, to get a license to carry, concealed or otherwise.

[zagibu]

If I was American and had the wish to carry a gun, I'd go for something classic like a Colt 1911 or something. You know, support local manufacturers, not some foreign company.

What i don't understand about the whole double action / single action discussion...can't you use a double action like a single action? I mean, they usually do have additional security triggers, right? So couldn't you carry it with the hammer cocked and essentially have a single action weapon?

[Rumblood]

If I was American and had the wish to carry a gun, I'd go for something classic like a Colt 1911 or something. You know, support local manufacturers, not some foreign company.

What i don't understand about the whole double action / single action discussion...can't you use a double action like a single action? I mean, they usually do have additional security triggers, right? So couldn't you carry it with the hammer cocked and essentially have a single action weapon?

Yes, because shooting yourself with your own weapon by accident is so haute couture 

[zagibu]

Which part of additional security triggers did you not understand?

[AntiBlitz]

Which part of additional security triggers did you not understand?

you are right alot of firearms will have additional safety measures built in to either the grip, or a push button/lever for the safety, though id truly recommend if you are carrying this concealed not to have those, as if the time arises that it needs pulled, you need to be able to fire it instantly, not flicking and pushing buttons for 5 more seconds while the world around you falls down.  If you plan on using this for a home defense gun, then by all means safety is paramount, you have the children, the wife/gf, and others who could harm themselves so having these features is a better safer way of keeping a handgun at the ready when you have the time to turn those safeties off and use the weapon.

to answer the other question, no you wouldnt want to leave the hammer cocked back, because the problem is the trigger becomes ultra sensitive at that point, and is under the requirement of between a 3-6lbs draw normally or lighter if it was built custom with a feather draw.  The other problem is, leaving it cocked the whole time could lead to the possibility of the hammer falling from something failing internally, dropping the hammer and firing the round, better to not leave it to fate to shoot yourself or someone else by accidental discharge.