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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2013, 12:56:21 am »
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But the officer wasn't attacked in any way?

Must you be threatened with force to show force?  Say someone tells you they have a gun, and they plan on killing you, would you not fight back at that point?  In the end, they didnt have a gun, now you are wrong for shooting?  I cant explain what all occurred in the video, there wasnt audio, so we dont know what was said if anything.  But clearly he knew he was going to be robbed by this guy, his motions, actions, and body language was such a dead giveaway, that you already knew who the cop and robber was before anything occurred.  The cop in this instance knew he was going to be robbed and jumped the robber rather then be jumped himself, and persisted in stopping the threatening force.  I couldnt tell you if this was too much force or not, but it surely left the better individual alive in the end, and the trained person had enough restraint to not just start popping off shots and held his fire till he was clear of civilians in the back ground.  I commend him for doing what he needed to do, but without seeing all the evidence i cannot say whether or not he did the right thing from my opinion.

Again, like i stated before, as biased as i am about my views, i dont really wish to have a gun debate with someone who cant understand because their views are extreme, i merely want to just show off my collection, and hope to see yours. 
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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2013, 01:00:47 am »
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It would be interesting to see statistics about attempted self defense gone wrong.

Also, I think people from different countries can never agree on this topic, since criminality rates vary wildly. I probably live in one of the safest places on Earth, so I guess that kind of influences my opinion.
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« Reply #62 on: October 03, 2013, 01:03:46 am »
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It doesn't have anything to do with the country. I also live in a statistically safe country when it comes to homicide, but I don't have any "it couldn't happen to me or my close ones" delusions.
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« Reply #63 on: October 03, 2013, 01:09:38 am »
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It would be interesting to see statistics about attempted self defense gone wrong.

Also, I think people from different countries can never agree on this topic, since criminality rates vary wildly. I probably live in one of the safest places on Earth, so I guess that kind of influences my opinion.

Safety is just an illusion-nary wall constructed by you to tell yourself that nothing can harm you.  I think people as a whole are somewhat too civilized and believe that violence is something of the past, and when confronted with it, they just dont understand how to respond, violence occurs everywhere, no matter where you live, i would really recommend if possible doing a "ride along" with your local law enforcement agency, if they do that sort of thing where you live to really get a feel for what happens in your area.  Nothing says you arent safe like going to a lunatics house and seeing how other people work.

More power to you if you live out in these places, though im not sure if they just dont record their crimerates the same, or they dont have the manpower/funding to cover everything,  I feel like things would be handled by the people rather than law enforcement at times in more rural areas, and from these pictures it seems like they are all rural.
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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #64 on: October 03, 2013, 01:16:32 am »
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I see, so people with different opinions are just uninformed. I think it's quite bold of you to extrapolate the situation in foreign countries from your own experiences. I thought you might at least give me that, but it seems guns must be universally good.

And if you seriously think it's okay to shoot someone that tells you he has a gun and is planning to shoot you with it, well, I hope I never meet you.

Also, next time, cite a better source, maybe something like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
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« Reply #65 on: October 03, 2013, 01:27:49 am »
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I see, so people with different opinions are just uninformed. I think it's quite bold of you to extrapolate the situation in foreign countries from your own experiences. I thought you might at least give me that, but it seems guns must be universally good.

And if you seriously think it's okay to shoot someone that tells you he has a gun and is planning to shoot you with it, well, I hope I never meet you.
im not saying you are uniformed, just not aware of what truly happens, similar to what every other random civilian thinks, i cant really blame anyone for their views, you only see what the media shows you.  I'll try and give an example that maybe relates:

I was dating this girl that lived a town over, she of course lived in what she thought was an upstanding neighborhood, little did she know 2 doors down, her neighbor was a sex offender, her neighbor a block over had an active warrant for burglarizing other homes within the same neighborhood,  and just 2 blocks away was under investigation for robbing a liquor store, and then car jacking an elderly man.  It just goes to show you, she had no idea of the things around her, she was completely oblivious and thought "everything is safe" when ya i guess it was, but is that really safe with those people around you?

as to the someone telling you they have a gun issue, ya if i walk up to you with a smile on my face and say it in a joking manor like we are pals, i understand what you are saying.  But thats not what i meant, im saying you standing at an atm with your back turned, or you working at a store and someone says those things to you.  You dont just naturally turn around and say, "oh you must be joking around".  You normally shit yourself first and then do as they say as to avoid conflict.   

Just as a social expirement, the next time you see a police officer, just walk up to him and tell him you have a loaded handgun and arent afraid to use it, or some other random one liner that instills your intent to harm him with a handgun.  Let me know how it goes for you...

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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #66 on: October 03, 2013, 01:37:40 am »
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im not saying you are uniformed, just not aware of what truly happens, similar to what every other random civilian thinks, i cant really blame anyone for their views, you only see what the media shows you.  I'll try and give an example that maybe relates:

I was dating this girl that lived a town over, she of course lived in what she thought was an upstanding neighborhood, little did she know 2 doors down, her neighbor was a sex offender, her neighbor a block over had an active warrant for burglarizing other homes within the same neighborhood,  and just 2 blocks away was under investigation for robbing a liquor store, and then car jacking an elderly man.  It just goes to show you, she had no idea of the things around her, she was completely oblivious and thought "everything is safe" when ya i guess it was, but is that really safe with those people around you?

I don't know, how many ppl did she have to shoot on her way to work?


as to the someone telling you they have a gun issue, ya if i walk up to you with a smile on my face and say it in a joking manor like we are pals, i understand what you are saying.  But thats not what i meant, im saying you standing at an atm with your back turned, or you working at a store and someone says those things to you.  You dont just naturally turn around and say, "oh you must be joking around".  You normally shit yourself first and then do as they say as to avoid conflict.   

Just as a social expirement, the next time you see a police officer, just walk up to him and tell him you have a loaded handgun and arent afraid to use it, or some other random one liner that instills your intent to harm him with a handgun.  Let me know how it goes for you...

I can tell you one thing with absolute certainty: He won't shoot me.
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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #67 on: October 03, 2013, 01:47:00 am »
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I don't know, how many ppl did she have to shoot on her way to work?


I can tell you one thing with absolute certainty: He won't shoot me.
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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #68 on: October 03, 2013, 01:51:01 am »
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See, and that's why I said the thing about different countries. Cops here are very different from your cops apparently. But you are right, it is time to leave, because I can see you don't value any discussion at all.

It is quite interesting, though, that pro gun people also usually seem to have a natural claim to being right all the time. Might makes right, I guess?
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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #69 on: October 03, 2013, 01:55:10 am »
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It doesn't matter about different cultures. Everyone makes a flight or fight reaction when their life is at stake. Generally speaking, if you make the sort of implication that Antiblitz said towards a cop, he would draw his weapon and tell you lay flat on your stomach (or whatever the search procedure is in your country). One sudden, even if accidental, movement is all you have to do before that fight switch kicks in and he fires.

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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #70 on: October 03, 2013, 01:56:12 am »
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best place are gun meets, idk where you are, but when ive been to them, they are normally there by the crate load, like hundreds of them brand new in the crate with packing grease still on em.

I got my mosin, $160. Now you can't buy for less than $250. Even the ammo in 500 rounds is bloody 250 again. I could get it for 170...

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I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but since you cant understand you can just leave, not sure why you are here anyways.

About that video...I agree with it Cops should wear video cameras.
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-05-01/story/man-shot-11-times-jacksonville-police-what-chief-calls-suicide-cop

Now this was overkill:
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-03-26/story/jacksonville-police-kill-robbery-suspect-wound-carjack-victims

Sadly, the cops here are a bit trigger happy. Any cop shooting involves no less than 1 clip of ammo expended per officer.
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« Reply #71 on: October 03, 2013, 02:16:10 am »
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See, and that's why I said the thing about different countries. Cops here are very different from your cops apparently. But you are right, it is time to leave, because I can see you don't value any discussion at all.

It is quite interesting, though, that pro gun people also usually seem to have a natural claim to being right all the time. Might makes right, I guess?

id love to have a conversation about guns, but you refuse to be wrong, even when wrong, those cops from my perspective were in the wrong, im sure you see it the same way.  Like i said you cant truly comment on something without having been there or done it.  Its like me talking about European football, though i know what it is, ive never seen it, maybe it differs from american soccer, idk, but how can i make an educated comment, when im in fact not educated on the matter, and my views are only subject of opinion.  I cant say without knowing you, but ill make the assumption.


It doesn't matter about different cultures. Everyone makes a flight or fight reaction when their life is at stake. Generally speaking, if you make the sort of implication that Antiblitz said towards a cop, he would draw his weapon and tell you lay flat on your stomach (or whatever the search procedure is in your country). One sudden, even if accidental, movement is all you have to do before that fight switch kicks in and he fires.

there is a buncha videos, im not sure if you can find them all on youtube, though they have a ton on there of cops shooting people who decided to pull out things like combs, icescrapers, or cell phones when a cop was pointing a gun at them, and were shot for it.


I got my mosin, $160. Now you can't buy for less than $250. Even the ammo in 500 rounds is bloody 250 again. I could get it for 170...

ya in the 90's mosins and alot of other firearms were quite cheap to acquire, however since then they have gone up in price substantially.  i havent see any mosins for less than $250 without some sort of random defect, like a cut in the stock or something.

One of the firearms id really like to acquire, though it will never happen, is the French Famas, it was originally imported by i think century arms in the 80's and they brought a few hundred of them into the country before the imported assault weapon ban came into place.  Its just so unique, and i really would like to add a bullpup style firearm to the collection, though their are others, this one was introduced to me when i was a youngster playing Metal Gear on the playstation lol back in the day.

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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #72 on: October 03, 2013, 02:21:44 am »
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I like AR's, but I'd rather not own any. I prefer Rifles, Semi-Autos, and Shotguns.

I'm not buying anymore weaponary until I move out of where I am. The lady doesn't like guns, and me owning 3 is super super  :evil: for her.

Also, I edited that post Anti with stuff about the cop/pull/etc discussion.

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« Reply #73 on: October 03, 2013, 02:26:32 am »
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Underage anime avatar, gun fascination, plays video games...future serial killer?
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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #74 on: October 03, 2013, 02:48:49 am »
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Underage anime avatar, gun fascination, plays video games...future serial killer?

If we go by FOX News standards, yes.
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