Your Opinion on Arbalests

[Nightmare798]

A dark red Heavy norman shield. But really I wasnt complainin about it. It doesnt take a lot out of your HP when it hits you while having the shield up. The reason my shieldskill is so weak, is because during combat im mainly a shieldless 1h. Im just carrying the shield as an accessory to make me look cooler and cause going in the middle of a battle gamemode shitstorm without a shield or a long weapon is a deathsentence.

oh...
well i guess everything has its ups and downs.

[Tom Cruise]

Dedicated harassment: Any kind of cavalry unit, especially ranged cavalry, can easily shutdown a crossbow. Nothing is more frustrating in this game then trying to fight a HA or HX with a 70 length short sword on an open plains map.

I hear you are a fan of Top_Gun_Maverick.

[Little Lord Lollipop]

archers can just run away, turn, shoot, rinse and repeat.

Spoken like someone who doesn't play archer. A dedicated crossbowman will have both a higher athletics skill and less gear weight. It is easy to kite as an xbow, unless you're being pursued by a pure agi infantry.

[njames89]

Late to the thread. But FUARK NERF THESE THINGS

[Nightingale]

One thing I dont understand, why do Xbows still get such massive bonuses for looming ? 3 dmg on bolts and another 4 dmg for Xbow at +3.

Crossbows aren't effected by stats that boost damage, like every other weapon in the game.

[Grumbs]

Isn't it 8% damage from one PS or PD? So 8x7 would be 56% more damage. Why apply that to looms? If you apply the 3 bonus damage of a normal weapon (that does 3 bonus damage say). 20+56% (+11.2) or 23+56% (12.88). Its not such a big bonus on the loom. If you want to buff the damage of Xbows why do it so much in the loomed version?

[Nightingale]

Whens the last time you used a melee weapon without powerstrike? How often do you do this?

lets say you want to loom a steel pick, but right now you don't have a loomed steel pick. your finished build is 6 powerstrike or whatever and 111 wpf.

31(.67- powerstrike bonus +wpf at level 111)=20.77... 31+20= 51p

congrats you loomed a steel pick

34(.67)=22.78.... 34+22= 56 the difference between the two 5p damage.

+3 arb you gain 4 damage base damage.
+3 steel bolts *separate loom* you gain 3 base damage.

3 lp spent (steel pick) 5p damage difference with 6 PS(average build)
6 lp spent (arb+steel bolts) 7p damage gain.

They aren't buffing it by giving it more damage when you upgrade it with a loom, they are trying to keep it balanced with weapons that have stats that boost its damage anyway.

[Phantasmal]

I think Xynox is asking why they didn't adjust the xbows like the archery equipment, buffing the damage of unloomed items while looming only provides boosts to missile speed, accuracy, etc.

[Rebelyell]

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[Grumbs]

I don't see how +7 pierce equates to +3 pierce (even with +56% damage). Maybe i'm being dense but I don't see it.

If its an attempt to balance the lack of bonus from your build then why apply it in the loomed version and not the normal unloomed version? Spent more loom points? So what, why should they combine for more damage just because you spent money on it?

Why do you even expect a bonus damage when you don't even have to spend points towards using the thing? Bows spend 4-6 points on PD and WPF is much more important. Melee spends points into shields, PS, IF etc just for their melee build. Xbows shouldn't get any bonus at all at any rate without spending points into something

[Nightingale]

Why do you even expect a bonus damage when you don't even have to spend points towards using the thing? Bows spend 4-6 points on PD and WPF is much more important. Melee spends points into shields, PS, IF etc just for their melee build. Xbows shouldn't get any bonus at all at any rate without spending points into something

I actually agree with you, they need to do something to stop infantry with 1 wpf or low investment to be able to just pick it up and be as effective with it as dedicated builds are. I don't expect bonus damage or any of that. I just want it to be where investing 9 weapon mastery into something actually mean something.

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that is probably considered an Agility build on NA.

[SMEGMAR]

Arbalests themselves aren't the problem.
With the 1h stab buff came a massive influx of crossbowmen with 1h swords and kettle hats.
It really hurts me to see half of the people in NA1 dressed this way and suckling on the flavor of the month teat.

[San]

Whens the last time you used a melee weapon without powerstrike? How often do you do this?

lets say you want to loom a steel pick, but right now you don't have a loomed steel pick. your finished build is 6 powerstrike or whatever and 111 wpf.

31(.67- powerstrike bonus +wpf at level 111)=20.77... 31+20= 51p

congrats you loomed a steel pick

34(.67)=22.78.... 34+22= 56 the difference between the two 5p damage.

+3 arb you gain 4 damage base damage.
+3 steel bolts *separate loom* you gain 3 base damage.

3 lp spent (steel pick) 5p damage difference with 6 PS(average build)
6 lp spent (arb+steel bolts) 7p damage gain.

They aren't buffing it by giving it more damage when you upgrade it with a loom, they are trying to keep it balanced with weapons that have stats that boost its damage anyway.

Even if the steel pick gets a few points extra raw damage (MW steel pick 6PS 111 wpf I calculated to be 54.7, could be wrong), doesn't the xbow have extra penetration to armor? If so, then 54.7 raw pierce damage is slightly worse than 51p extra penetration damage, close to a +0 hunting xbow and +0 steel bolts.

It's possible for a 7PS 130wpf +3 steel pick user with very good speed bonus and a perfect hold + head hit to reach a +3arbalest +3 steel bolts (100p but ~111p raw damage without extra penetration) amount of damage in one hit, though. +3 Crossbow and +3 steel bolts and up are all more damage than decent 7PS +3 steel pick held strikes that hit the head.

[Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo]

1h swords and kettle hats.

[Phew]

kettle hats.

I agree, Kettle Hats are totally OP and ruining the game.