I will donate to cRPG if devs give NA_2 map control to the community

[Canuck]

I know they aren't on the forums much but don't forget about Le Bloc Quebecois, these guys here play siege all the time as well.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=claninfodetail&id=1867

[TugBoat]

I know they aren't on the forums much but don't forget about Le Bloc Quebecois, these guys here play siege all the time as well.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=claninfodetail&id=1867

Just talked to DrDemento, either he or Manduin are going to rep their banner in the council

[Jacko]

Incase my gnjuspalm wasn't clear enough:

The rotations are already made by players, Teeth and Fips. Both active Sceners and players. If you want to change the rotation head over to Scene Editing and make your voice heard, I guarantee you it will be there. A 'council' of players deciding the rotation will never happen. It is by it's nature a nothing short of a circle jerk of self entitled player thinking they deserve to run it, on no other merit than that they play.

We have perfectly able bodied Scene Managers doing this, whom have played for years and have made maps currently in rotation. And you have donations..? Are you trying to bribe me ?

Now, if you want to advice these guys, go ahead. Everyone is free to do so. We'll listen anyway, with or without a council or donations.

[karasu]

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[Penitent]

I like Forest Attack and Native Turin.  I don't remember there being bugs on those maps...

There's a map missing from the list (active and non-active siege maps) that I remember playing.  The attackers had to go through a village on a curved path before having to knock down a gate/door on a low wall to get to the flag.  The attackers could also go right, climb a hill, and throw ladders up on a burning roof of the keep. (Yes, this was back when you could take and throw ladders in seige).   

Sorry I don't know how to describe it more accurately right now.

[TugBoat]

Incase my gnjuspalm wasn't clear enough:

The rotations are already made by players, Teeth and Fips. Both active Sceners and players. If you want to change the rotation head over to Scene Editing and make your voice heard, I guarantee you it will be there. A 'council' of players deciding the rotation will never happen. It is by it's nature a nothing short of a circle jerk of self entitled player thinking they deserve to run it, on no other merit than that they play.

We have perfectly able bodied Scene Managers doing this, whom have played for years and have made maps currently in rotation. And you have donations..? Are you trying to bribe me ?

Now, if you want to advice these guys, go ahead. Everyone is free to do so. We'll listen anyway, with or without a council or donations.

Teeth, who is in charge of this, has already stated if he hears from a large group of clan people, and not individual whiners, he will do it. Unless you want to overrule him that is what's going to happen.

I will bribe you though, yes, and chadz, and cmp, and whatever. If me throwing some money at you guys is what it takes to revitalize the NA servers, I don't mind doing that. You guys put in a lot of hard work, and I appreciate that.

I'm not selecting a group of "self entitled" players. I am contacting the most active clans/banner stacks who play in siege in NA, and each clan is selecting a representative who is familiar with siege play, maps, etc.

The group is diverse, and fair.

These are not "Self entitled" players. These are leaders in active cRPG communities who care about this game, and this mod, and want it to succeed. They want better and more diverse gaming experiences within the mod and community that they care about. These are not random assholes.

Please be a bit more respectful if you can. Yes, this is an internet forum, but as a developer I believe you should recognize that we are people, and we deserve respect.

Siege promotes objective based gameplay, and teamplay that many members really enjoy. It also gives the opportunity for newer players to play more actively, and not have to worry about sitting out for 5 minutes sometimes to play again and learn and improve.

The effort I am going through is selfish in a way, because I enjoy playing in siege, but it's not just about me. Many players love siege, but some of the maps and the rotation currently going is just miserable, and siege population gets cut in half when certain maps come on. Siege has great potential, and with a group of cRPG community leaders working actively to keep the rotations interesting, fun, and balanced, I believe we will benefit the community as a whole.

[TugBoat]

Also, this is for NA_SIEGE! If you are a Euro who is not actively involved in the map selection process for NA Siege, your input really isn't required!

We know that NA is the dirty step child of the EU servers, and we would like more NA direct involvement! Teeth and Fips are nice, but they are NOT NA PLAYERS! We want NA players working on the maps for our server, not Euros. No offense, you're all great and NA wouldn't exist without EU, but we don't care about your opinions on the servers we play on or your random European inside jokes that we don't understand.

[Christo]

Also, this is for NA_SIEGE! If you are a Euro who is not actively involved in the map selection process for NA Siege, your input really isn't required!

We know that NA is the dirty step child of the EU servers, and we would like more NA direct involvement! Teeth and Fips are nice, but they are NOT NA PLAYERS! We want NA players working on the maps for our server, not Euros. No offense, you're all great and NA wouldn't exist without EU, but we don't care about your opinions on the servers we play on or your random European inside jokes that we don't understand.

What a nice way to say "please don't get offended, but fuck off 'MURICA" lol

NA-t surprised you took this approach, even though you could be polite, but that's out of character.

[TugBoat]

What a nice way to say "please don't get offended, but fuck off 'MURICA" lol

NA-t surprised you took this approach, even though you could be polite, but that's out of character.

I thought I was polite. I did say you guys are awesome and we know we wouldn't exist without you guys. I just am tired of the gjus spam and European players +'ing and -'ing stuff when it doesn't concern them. I have no idea who gnjus is what he plays or where, and I don't know how he's relevant to this discussion, or frankly how any Europeans not involved in the NA map selection process are relevant to this discussion.

[Macropus]

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Sorry, EU humour again...

[Osiris]

i see our last Donkey invasion of NA failed to teach them our superiority!

[CrazyCracka420]

I wish I would have been there to pick you off on my lancer

[Fips]

How about instead of all this whining, go to Scene Editing, look at the thread where all the current maps are in with screenshots, decide on which maps you don't want to play on NA Siege and post why (!) in the feedback thread and then we can talk about editing the rotation. If you want new maps in there, post them as well and provide proper feedback for them and if we see them fit the servers they will surely get in there. But "put this" or "delete this" won't get you anywhere.
Also, next patch brings defenders spawn timer based on server population, so that will probably solve a lot of the issues for NA siege (as well as EU siege when low pop) and there are still no automated server restarts happening that allow teeth and myself to edit the cycle as often as we want to. Until then, there is not much we can do but to discuss what maps are never going to work for NA. And that is done in Scene Editing.

[TugBoat]

How about instead of all this whining, go to Scene Editing, look at the thread where all the current maps are in with screenshots, decide on which maps you don't want to play on NA Siege and post why (!) in the feedback thread and then we can talk about editing the rotation. If you want new maps in there, post them as well and provide proper feedback for them and if we see them fit the servers they will surely get in there. But "put this" or "delete this" won't get you anywhere.
Also, next patch brings defenders spawn timer based on server population, so that will probably solve a lot of the issues for NA siege (as well as EU siege when low pop) and there are still no automated server restarts happening that allow teeth and myself to edit the cycle as often as we want to. Until then, there is not much we can do but to discuss what maps are never going to work for NA. And that is done in Scene Editing.

I didn't really whine, and I'm not sure why this discussion is even continuing. Teeth has already said he would listen to a group of active NA Siege clan leaders and their suggestions, and we've already started that.

[Fips]

There have been several threads like this already in the General Discussion and usually noone ever bothers to go to Scene Editing and do some proper feedback or anything beyond the usual QQ, so go ahead and surprise me.