Rondel Dagger OP

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Also we should nerf Strawhats since those Guard-Archers kill many ppl while having them equipped.

Every weapon is OP when the user knows how to use em.

Stop crying.

But strawhats aren't weapons.

[F i n]

But strawhats aren't weapons.

damn it zlisch. stop lying!

Rondel dagger isnt a weapon either. Its the dude thats using it i'd call a weapon. now shut up. or ban.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

damn it zlisch. stop lying!

Rondel dagger isnt a weapon either. Its the dude thats using it i'd call a weapon. now shut up. or ban.

I challenge you to a duel on NA_3

[F i n]

I challenge you to a duel on NA_3

Only, if you agree on using rondels and strawhats only.

[Kafein]

Or let's all get 100 pierce lightsabers, i'm sure the skilled players will still get better K/Ds, in which case the lightsabers wouldn't be OP right?

As we would all have one, no they wouldn't be OP.

[Daunt_Flockula]

A solution could be to remove the secondary mode, which allows 4-directional attacks. They are fast and as efficient as the stab attack. I mean to think that a dagger swing could deal any noticeable damage on medium or heavy armor is crazy. While I still don't even approve of its almighty stab (because that would only work on a fallen enemy by aiming directly for open body areas), this could be an alright solution.

[DonNicko]

OMG!!! My stats 27 str 9 IF, 55 armor, and I was killed twise with this dagger just by two hits(

[no_rules_just_play]

my 7/33 pure xbow char with 0 powerstrike and all wpf in xbow:

1 sneaky shot in the back from point blank range -> kill with dagger -> kick of wall
took me about 10 seconds for this triple kill
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this one was just a 5 stab 5 kill in less than 10 seconds
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come on guys, its quite op indeed. I can do good with it on na servers!

[Penitent]

It's a powerful weapon, but it has lots of downsides and people who use it are just as easy to kill as they are able to kill others.

I think most of the reason people have such success with this weapon is that their opponents are not used to its speed and attack methods (quick dart in and out, or rapid succession of crazy stabs) and they are caught off guard.

If it is truly OP, then more people will start using it, and then more people will get used to going up against it, and people will adapt their playstyles and stop underestimating it.

I don't think its very OP in its own right.

[Daunt_Flockula]

It's a powerful weapon.

You know this is where it all fails right? A dagger isn't supposed to be powerful.

[Fartface]

You know this is where it all fails right? A dagger isn't supposed to be powerful.

Says who?

[Tojo]

You know this is where it all fails right? A dagger isn't supposed to be powerful.

I can kill you dead with a dagger or a sword, or even a fork, when you wear no armor and don't block.

[Daunt_Flockula]

A solution could be to remove the secondary mode, which allows 4-directional attacks. They are fast and as efficient as the stab attack. I mean to think that a dagger swing could deal any noticeable damage on medium or heavy armor is crazy. While I still don't even approve of its almighty stab (because that would only work on a fallen enemy by aiming directly for open body areas), this could be an alright solution.

Ok Tojo, have a read at that and save yourself the trouble of babbling about "I could do this and that".

[Kampfkarotte]

If it is truly OP, then more people will start using it, and then more people will get used to going up against it, and people will adapt their playstyles and stop underestimating it.

I don't think its very OP in its own right.

I totally agree with you. I played a whole generation with rondel (and sometimes with knife) and I have to say:
Every kill counted twice for me compared to normal melee, cause it was so hard to kill. Rondel is worse than most of 2h/pole/1h and definitely not OP. 

[Rico]

EU_2 community, would my char be more annoying if I gave her a Rondel Dagger?