1h stab fix

[Nightmare798]

would you developers please fix the damn 1h stabs stabbing people that are on my right? i teamhit all the time when someone stands next to me because of that jerky hitbox being off...

[CrazyCracka420]

It's been like that since forever...I've killed dozens of teammates who were directly parallel to my right (not in front of me at all).  It's something you have to get used to

[Tydeus]

would you developers please fix the damn 1h stabs stabbing people that are on my right? i teamhit all the time when someone stands next to me because of that jerky hitbox being off...

When you can take a ss video of a thrust missing a stationary opponent as proof, I'll look into it. Until then, I have the same reply I've used for ages: You're not on LAN, this is the internet, people are not actually where they appear to be.

[CrazyCracka420]

Well I've stabbed Rohy before and we both have decent ping.  He was literally standing directly to my right, not in front at all and I killed him with the stab.

But that was before the 1h stab animation change, so not sure if it's still an issue.  Pretty sure 2h's do that as well on their stabs (found out the hard way on one of my alts after going on a tk spree).

I should be around tonight and can try to do some testing

[Nightmare798]

When you can take a ss video of a thrust missing a stationary opponent as proof, I'll look into it. Until then, I have the same reply I've used for ages: You're not on LAN, this is the internet, people are not actually where they appear to be.

it doesnt happen with overhead...

[Nightmare798]

Well I've stabbed Rohy before and we both have decent ping.  He was literally standing directly to my right, not in front at all and I killed him with the stab.

But that was before the 1h stab animation change, so not sure if it's still an issue.  Pretty sure 2h's do that as well on their stabs (found out the hard way on one of my alts after going on a tk spree)

this issue is infact greater than ever, thanks to lower glancing potential of 1h stab. it has gone to a point where i have to remind myself not to use 1h stab in defensive line unless i want to get vote kicked.

[CrazyCracka420]

Yeah that makes sense that it would be more prevalent now that the stab actually does damage at the beginning of the thrust.  I think it would be good to have a video demonstrating it for the devs (since it does seem to be a normal occurrence).  I don't know if there's more to it than just what we have described, so testing would be good to figure out what circumstances it happens in.

[Tydeus]

it doesnt happen with overhead...

While overheads stay mostly centered, thrusts do not, particularly the 1h and polearm thrusts. Why is it that no one has ever complained about things hitting to the left, rather than the right? Because they're busy trying to keep opponents centered on their screen(To the left of where the weapon actually goes).

I should be around tonight and can try to do some testing

I've actually done testing for this in the past, I was simply trying to be polite. Still, feel free to test until you're content. If you do happen to find something I'll be more than happy to look into to.

[CrazyCracka420]

Well if you've tested before I have no interest in doing so myself (I didn't really want to anyways).  It could have been someone moving forward as I stabbed, or me not being directly parallel to the guy I stabbed on my right, or even trying to wiggle the stab subconsciously.

1h stabbing to the right of the animation never seemed to be as big as polearm or 2h stabbing to the right of the animation.  I TW a lot with a pike or 2h sword thrust since I'm not used to using them.

[Elindor]

I have noticed that with my 2h I will often hit friendlies that are directly to my right when stabbing at an opponent directly in front of me....probably because the stab initiates from the right side....not sure but it can be annoying

[Rumblood]

The stab comes from your right hand, not the middle of your body.

[Nightmare798]

The stab comes from your right hand, not the middle of your body.

the body also moves in a manner it would be impossible for the stabbing person to stab someone next to you.