changing smoke bombs to flash bombs/flashbang

[Clockworkkiller]

they could also teamstack lots and lots of throwing lances...
sure it will be fun just walking down the street and get hit by six lances just by going round the corner.
i dont mean for it to have like giant radius of thirty feet, i mean like 4-5 feet, for an escape route, it would add a cool tactical element to siege street fights...

in siege: crowded hall or room, long mauler throws smokebomb, you cant see, long mauler comes in and wrecks everyone with noskill overhead

i think not, with particle effects turned off, you cant even see the smoke.
IMO stuff like Smokebombs and "distractions" and other niche items are pretty stupid
and besides, that little "on-screen" effect you got there, will probaly be next to impossible to code

[Nightmare798]

in siege: crowded hall or room, long mauler throws smokebomb, you cant see, long mauler comes in and wrecks everyone with noskill overhead

i think not, with particle effects turned off, you cant even see the smoke.
IMO stuff like Smokebombs and "distractions" and other niche items are pretty stupid
and besides, that little "on-screen" effect you got there, will probaly be next to impossible to code

including himself and ignoring the fact other people wont simply just stand there doing nothing...
edit: on-screen effects are gui related methinks, i dont think it would be so hard to implement.

[Clockworkkiller]

including himself and ignoring the fact other people wont simply just stand there doing nothing...
edit: on-screen effects are gui related methinks, i dont think it would be so hard to implement.

he is a long mauler, he doesnt need to see, just overhead like crazy
this applies to almost every 2h/pole character
and what would others be doing? just start swinging everyone? leaving themselves open for attacks and wil TW like shit
blindly advance into enemy? yea thats smart
retreat? ok now you just lost ground.

and for the onscreen effects, yes it would be hard to implentment, this is the module system we're talking about

[Nightmare798]

he is a long mauler, he doesnt need to see, just overhead like crazy
this applies to almost every 2h/pole character
and what would others be doing? just start swinging everyone? leaving themselves open for attacks and wil TW like shit
blindly advance into enemy? yea thats smart
retreat? ok now you just lost ground.

and for the onscreen effects, yes it would be hard to implentment, this is the module system we're talking about

ofc it wouldnt last that long, like three seconds that would give someone enough time to disengage and make a run for it without having it ruin whole gameplay.

[Clockworkkiller]

ignoring the fact other people wont simply just stand there doing nothing...

three seconds wont amount to shit to "escape"

[Nightmare798]

three seconds wont amount to shit to "escape"

with smokescreen, yes they will. you would not believe how long can three seconds sometimes be...

[Clockworkkiller]

with smokescreen, yes they will. you would not believe how long can three seconds sometimes be...

yes but your forgetting the fact that as you said....

ignoring the fact other people wont simply just stand there doing nothing...

crpg is NOT tactical, people arent going to be like "Oh shit where he go? everyone step back!"
people are going to be more along the lines of "oh look, he just thrown a smokebomb, fuck this guy! CHARGE AND CHASE!"
you just thrown a smoke bomb? well with the time it takes to 1. throw 2. have it land and start to spew smoke 3. for you to turn and run. they would already be on your ass.

either way, im done here, ive wasted too much time arguing something, when ive already made my stance on thhe subject clear.
have a good evening, sir

[Torost]

make them into crude grenades.. a small areaeffect. Will knockdown/stun/rear horses along with alittle dmg.

[CrazyCracka420]

two words:

tactical nukes

[Nightmare798]

yes but your forgetting the fact that as you said....

crpg is NOT tactical, people arent going to be like "Oh shit where he go? everyone step back!"
people are going to be more along the lines of "oh look, he just thrown a smokebomb, fuck this guy! CHARGE AND CHASE!"
you just thrown a smoke bomb? well with the time it takes to 1. throw 2. have it land and start to spew smoke 3. for you to turn and run. they would already be on your ass.

either way, im done here, ive wasted too much time arguing something, when ive already made my stance on thhe subject clear.
have a good evening, sir

how can anyone chase someone without seeing where they are?  if thats how do real life smoke grenades work then why they are not useless?

well with the time it takes to 1. throw

agreed time needs to throw this weapon would need to be shortened,

2. have it land and start to spew smoke

the effect is immediate after landing 

3. for you to turn and run

if you take three seconds to turn around and start running, then you need to improve your reaction times.that, i cant help you with...

[Nightmare798]

ok, i see that community is against actual working game mechanics so fuck it, gameplay diversity doesnt matter anyway, lets just be conservative and have this mod stale as piss.

topic locked.