Nerf rondel

[Kafein]

Even those guys with shields aren't much more of a problem, the reach of that thing is really small.

[WITCHCRAFT]

It's not insanely overpowered, but it IS "better" than all of the other cheap 1H weapons like long dagger, hammer, hand axe, etc. The "stab only" mode makes it easier to not accidentally swing when you mean to stab. The swing mode does pierce damage on par with the pick weapons.

I think rondel should cost more, somewhere in the 1,000 - 3,000 gold range. It is too good for its cost, but not OP.

[Dezilagel]

The plate shield + dagger combo is so prevalent it's not even funny.

The reach argument would have been valid a couple of patches ago, but now you can extend your reach massively by stabbing and then running into your target (which is a trait my polearm has gained as well; I don't know why but it's stupid).

[MURDERTRON]

Please add a rondel on a stick.  You can call it the rondel spear pike.  Also give it a secondary throwing mode with 9 ammo.

[Nightmare798]

this game gave me an important lesson: no matter how stupid something looks, if its abusable, everyone will use it.

[Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo]

Even those guys with shields aren't much more of a problem, the reach of that thing is really small.

Yes, but its ghost reach - especially considering the new 1H stab buff - is hilariously obvious.

[Clockworkkiller]

this game gave me an important lesson: no matter how stupid something looks, if its abusable, everyone will use it.

Oh Really? you just figured that out?
what rock have you been living under?

[Ellie]

Please add a rondel on a stick.  You can call it the rondel spear pike.  Also give it a secondary throwing mode with 9 ammo.

You forgot, give it 100 pierce damage and make the throwing secondary extremely accurate 

[Nightmare798]

You forgot, give it 100 pierce damage and make the throwing secondary extremely accurate 

next admin weapon perhaps?

[Digglez]

make it cost as much as other 30p weapons instead of ruining all sense of balance and logic in the weapon design

[Riddaren]

Put a strength requirement on shields but keep the shield skill requirement as well.
To prevent 3/36 builds drom using a steel buckler with a rondel dagger for example.

[Tibe]

Rondel was designed as a "armorkiller", thats why it has insane damage

and rondels secondary mode can easily outspam people, i use it if im stuck in a bad 1v1

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I can clearly see how the stabby pointy end would murder every tincan on site. But by the look of it, its swings wouldnt really do anything to armors that are above leather, cause it really has no edge at all, its just a big needle. Naturally it should have swingdamage of 14 or something. Also I dont see it OP. It sucks when I die to it, but mainly its still just me sucking. It is easly counterable if you think about it.

[Nightmare798]

Put a strength requirement on shields but keep the shield skill requirement as well.
To prevent 3/36 builds drom using a steel buckler with a rondel dagger for example.

meh this build would be pretty impractical, you still need some ps to do any damage at all, not to mention even a peasant with pitchfork would one hit you...

[Riddaren]

meh this build would be pretty impractical, you still need some ps to do any damage at all, not to mention even a peasant with pitchfork would one hit you...

1PS with speed bonus is enough to deal damage.

[Ubereem]

Fine but just stay away from my MW 103s 31p 20b throwing lance!