Need help for a new PC

[Sniger]

I think I found your problem Sniger.  Jackie's not upgrading, he's building a new desktop from scratch. 

For me the SSD is a big deal because I only have 8 GB of memory.  If you have 16 GB of memory, you really don't have much need for an SSD.  The normal 7200 rpm SATA hard drives are the bottleneck on a lot of systems nowadays (or the BUS transfer speeds on the motherboard). 

But if you only have $800 to spend, to build a brand new desktop from scratch (one that you can game on, or do graphic editing), an SSD is not going to be a wise use of the money.

When your processor and graphics card can easily take up $400 (half of the amount), I think spending another $150 on an SSD is a terrible use of your money (and that's not even going to get you 250 GB of space). 

I'm not arguing that an SSD isn't much better than a platter hard drive (the difference is literally night and day), but you can get around this with enough memory.  He's going to need a decent amount of memory anyways due to graphic editing, so I wouldn't be able to justify spending money on an SSD.

if you want a gaming rig, wait abit more and save up more gold. 800 bucks for gaming rig is totally not enough :s if you just want a computer then go for the barebones... intel just released a nice series called next computing generation or something like that, they seem quite nice...
they are (i belive) from 1700DKR and up http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/desktops/dc3217by-product-brief.html

dont spend 800 bucks on something you will regret spending 800 bucks on :p wait till you have more moneyz and by then the hw is also cheaper

[JackieChan]

Ive talked to some people IRL and they told me that with around 600 euros i could get something decent (if not good). As i will most probably build the computer from scratch i will just have to add or replaces as the years goes by instead of  buying a whole new rig. Which is awsome budget wise.

Ill tweak the rig i posted earlier according to the advice i got(and post it here). Thanks alot guys 

[Rumblood]

More than 8Gb has very little use today. That amount of memory under normal use will not fill up and you'll never have to use your hard disk as additional memory (most programs don't like this anyway, it's almost an antique technique now). It's the exact same phenomenon as with hard disks, and for speed you'd be better getting more cache. That is, a better processor.

Unless you are like me and run Warband + Civ 5 + 4 Citrix sessions + 18 tabs in your browser. But we can't all be multi-taskers 

[Kafein]

Unless you are like me and run Warband + Civ 5 + 4 Citrix sessions + 18 tabs in your browser. But we can't all be multi-taskers 

Yeah sure. Although at some point I did do something similar

And not a single fuck was given

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btw starting that many games which don't have audio disable in background is funny

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Ho yeah also shank2 uses 40% of the CPU when in the main menu

[Alec]

i'm too lazy to read all the previous post so thats why i'm asking whatfor you gonna use your computer primary? i read u study computer graphics, what exactly do you create or edit?

[Nightmare798]

i'm too lazy to read all the previous post so thats why i'm asking whatfor you gonna use your computer primary? i read u study computer graphics, what exactly do you create or edit?

to be honest i think that moar performance is always good, regardless what are you going to do...

[Alec]

check out, this may help
http://www.alternate.co.uk/html/index.html
http://www.alternate.co.uk/html/configurator/builder/pc/page.html

[AntiBlitz]

Ive talked to some people IRL and they told me that with around 600 euros i could get something decent (if not good). As i will most probably build the computer from scratch i will just have to add or replaces as the years goes by instead of  buying a whole new rig. Which is awsome budget wise.

Ill tweak the rig i posted earlier according to the advice i got(and post it here). Thanks alot guys 

At any point did you ever just think about financing?  You could get everything you wanted and still pay like 100 bucks a month for a year and be done with it.

[zagibu]

At any point did you ever just think about financing?  You could get everything you wanted and still pay like 100 bucks a month for a year and be done with it.

NEVER.

[JackieChan]

Okey a friend of mine gave me a french website that delivers in belgium. We made a cart, but in some cases we didnt find  the exact  components as Rumblood gave me, so we looked for something similar. Anyway heres the cart:

Processor: http://www.ldlc.be/fiche/PB00120938.html
Graphic card: http://www.ldlc.be/fiche/PB00149699.html
Motherboard: http://www.ldlc.be/fiche/PB00128788.html
RAM: http://www.ldlc.be/fiche/PB00100992.html
Hard drive: http://www.ldlc.be/fiche/PB00129110.html
Power supply : http://www.ldlc.be/fiche/PB00146780.html
Case: http://www.ldlc.be/fiche/PB00135732.html (not the same case as Rumblood gave me, i didnt find the brand on the website, and i thought i should just get the cheapest atm.)

Total of  661,40 EUR. Around 700EUR with delivery. It really maxed out my original budget, but i can scramble around some cash and they also give  a 3 time payment option which is great.

[Rumblood]

Nice, I think you'll be more than happy with the performance.

[Kafein]

Financing is a horrible idea unless you know for a fact you'll have the money ready and there's no way you can get it now.

[Rumblood]

Financing is a horrible idea unless you know for a fact you'll have the money ready and there's no way you can get it now.

Or unless you plan to finance a house sometime soon, need to build your credit score, and know for a fact that you can afford to do this and never miss a payment.

[JackieChan]

Financing is a horrible idea unless you know for a fact you'll have the money ready and there's no way you can get it now.

To picture the whole idea: Atm i got 300 Euros, next week ill get payed from my job ( around 300EUR) and since i am still a student i am fortunate enough to have a family that can lend me some cash if im in trouble 

Another question i got, is it possible to install Win7 without a CD? meaning i can use a  USB or external drive to do it?

[Kafein]

Another question i got, is it possible to install Win7 without a CD? meaning i can use a  USB or external drive to do it?

I never did that myself but I'm fairly sure you can.